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The FISA Act And The Definition Of 'US Persons'
Captains Quarters ^ | 12/17/05 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 12/18/2005 7:24:55 AM PST by Valin

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1 posted on 12/18/2005 7:24:55 AM PST by Valin
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To: Valin

Thanks for posting this!


2 posted on 12/18/2005 7:30:47 AM PST by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: Valin

Great background post.


3 posted on 12/18/2005 7:30:47 AM PST by frankjr
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To: Valin
I find it interesting that the Democrats keep repeating secret "surveillance of American citizens." How do they know who has been surveilled?
4 posted on 12/18/2005 7:32:26 AM PST by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: Valin

The headlines, if any, should read: BUSH DEFENDS AMERICA instead of the typical left-media BUSH SPIES ON AMERICANS.
If Bush wasn't President, we would have been attacked several more times since 9/11/01, and thousands more civilians here in the U.S. would have died. Perhaps hundreds of thousands.


5 posted on 12/18/2005 7:33:23 AM PST by pleikumud
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To: Valin

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 119

CHAPTER 119—WIRE AND ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS INTERCEPTION AND INTERCEPTION OF ORAL COMMUNICATIONS


I have read the complete chapter and numerous times it gives the Attorney General authorization to allow a tap as long as a judge is notified immediately after and who's to say they weren't? The FISA court is so secret that they can't even disclose if they were notified after the fact.


6 posted on 12/18/2005 7:36:34 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: Valin
Wait.......you are basing your OPINION of these warrantless searches ON FACTS!! You know that the Dims and MSM don't give a rat's a.s about FACTS. Stir the emotions, paint with a broad brush, scream about RIGHTS, rage over the President's abuse of power and never stop the childish negative SOUND BITES.

Of course if he didn't have these warrantless searches and the Brooklyn Bridge was blown to pieces by the terrorists, well then we can just BASH BUSH for NOT protecting us.

Both sides of the issue or should I say EITHER side of the issue is just as appropriate to the leftists commies American haters that we call Democrats and the Main Stream Media.

7 posted on 12/18/2005 7:36:54 AM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: Valin

The ACLU's selection outrage and how Clinton spied on American citizens.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1542539/posts


8 posted on 12/18/2005 7:38:07 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Clara Lou

" How do they know who has been surveilled?


Great question!


9 posted on 12/18/2005 7:38:08 AM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

ping


10 posted on 12/18/2005 7:40:01 AM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: Valin

How do you know who it is until you listen to the call, though?


11 posted on 12/18/2005 7:41:05 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: pleikumud

Personally, I think the President has the inherent constitutional power to do this irrespective what some statute might say. Congress can't restrict the President's constitutional power to defend the US from attack.


12 posted on 12/18/2005 7:42:36 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
I could be wrong, but I'm starting to get the feeling that this may ba a trap for the Dems, possibly one they willingly walked into.

It may be, like the 'Rathergate' incident, that they wanted to nail Bush so badly, they leapt before they looked.

Just a gut feeling.

13 posted on 12/18/2005 7:45:47 AM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: Valin

Unfortunately the MSM doesn't rely on facts and discourages their use. All morning, Bush has been portrayed as illegally spying on US citizens... and that's what Joe & Jane Blow will believe.


14 posted on 12/18/2005 7:46:30 AM PST by johnny7 (“Check out the big brain on Brett!”)
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To: Brilliant

Also, he has the "responsibility" to defend the U.S.
Bush has acted responsibly, unlike Klinton.


15 posted on 12/18/2005 7:52:36 AM PST by pleikumud
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To: johnny7

Why is it that the laymen on Free Republic can dig this stuff up and refute the attacks of the Dems better than the RNC?


16 posted on 12/18/2005 7:56:41 AM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees have decided to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: airborne
 
"I could be wrong, but I'm starting to get the feeling that this may be a trap for the Dems, possibly one they willingly walked into."

I personally don't think it's a trap, but it certainly looks like the edge of a cliff with the Democrats running open throttle towards it.


17 posted on 12/18/2005 8:12:50 AM PST by HawaiianGecko (Facts are neither debatable nor open to "I have a right to this opinion" nonsense.)
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To: Wristpin
Why is it that the laymen on Free Republic can dig this stuff up and refute the attacks of the Dems better than the RNC?

That's what makes me so angry sometimes. That I don't have an answer to your question.

18 posted on 12/18/2005 8:17:38 AM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: Wristpin
 
"Why is it that the laymen on Free Republic can dig this stuff up and refute the attacks of the Dems better than the RNC?"

Oh, I imagine the RNC knows this better than we do in FR. It's just tough to shape post #1 into a sound bite palatable to the American public, or a bumper sticker that doesn't require the entire back door of a semi-trailer. ;)


19 posted on 12/18/2005 8:18:05 AM PST by HawaiianGecko (Facts are neither debatable nor open to "I have a right to this opinion" nonsense.)
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To: HawaiianGecko
I hope the Rinos run over that cliff with them.
20 posted on 12/18/2005 8:20:21 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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