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1 posted on 12/18/2005 12:13:41 AM PST by Deek1969
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If a student had requested a book entitled "Why Homosexuality is Unnatural" then the professor would turn the student in to the thought police.


2 posted on 12/18/2005 12:17:17 AM PST by feedback doctor (Liberalism is like a religion - islam)
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enemy within


3 posted on 12/18/2005 12:17:34 AM PST by iPod Shuffle
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Williams said in his research, he regularly contacts people in Afghanistan, Chechnya and other Muslim hot spots, and suspects that some of his calls are monitored.

LOL!!!!!!!

"I swear! They came about Mao's book!! But, sure, they asked me about calling Muslim terrorist occupied areas too."

4 posted on 12/18/2005 12:17:43 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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This nation needs to protect itself. Since we refuse to control any form of immigration, the next thing is to monitor suspicious people inside and outside of our borders. Suspicious activity sends up a red flag, well, then you will be watched. That is the very reason we have intelligence gathering. If you don't set yourself up for it, it, (surveillance) won't be looking over your shoulder without cause.


5 posted on 12/18/2005 12:17:49 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISTION!


8 posted on 12/18/2005 12:25:35 AM PST by John Will
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Any freepers that defend this action better keep their hypocrital mouths shut when Democrats abuse this power against conservatives.


9 posted on 12/18/2005 12:26:06 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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Isn't that pamphlet online? Why would a university senior need to get it from the library? Sorry, something is fishy in Denmark. (Rotten, fishy, who cares?)
14 posted on 12/18/2005 12:30:09 AM PST by LibWhacker
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You could always pick one up at the A.N.S.W.E.R. table at any peace rally.

17 posted on 12/18/2005 12:35:50 AM PST by dancusa (Appeasement, high taxes and regulation collects in the diapers of bed wetting liberals.)
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The college student was visited by federal agents two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao's tome on communism.


18 posted on 12/18/2005 12:36:24 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("MOO...BANG...MOOO!")
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I wonder what happens when a student requests, say, "The Black Book of Communism" or "The Gulag Archipelago". Or could that question even arise?


23 posted on 12/18/2005 12:55:15 AM PST by Christopher Lincoln
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Don't buy it. Sorta like Black Helicopter stuff.


30 posted on 12/18/2005 1:14:46 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party)
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Book alert (not a little red one) to all FReepers! After reading a very favorable review of it in "Commentary", I purchased "Mao: The Untold Story". This is a very well researched yet very readable book written by two people who had first-hand experience with Communist China. It tells how Chairman Mao was directly and indirectly responsible for the death of some 70 million Chinese. It's been largely overlooked by many in the West (some of whom even succumb to a phony Mao kitsch) that this monster makes Hitler and Stalin look like pikers! Equally important, it helps one to better understand why China is the way it is today.


31 posted on 12/18/2005 1:19:39 AM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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It is obvious that either the "Standard-Times newspaper of New Bedford, Mass"

Standard-Times newspaper of New Bedford, Mass:

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/
The Standard-Times has apparently pulled this story although their site is not searchable Google returns:

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/06-01/06-29-01/a17op092.htm

It seems like the Standard-Times is a Maoist organ.

NewsMax did not check the story, it appears.

http://www.newsmax.com/
32 posted on 12/18/2005 1:26:43 AM PST by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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Somehow, I doubt that this ever happened. It's a leftist propaganda piece that does not have a shred of truth to it.


34 posted on 12/18/2005 1:35:28 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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"...and that his [the student's] background, which included significant time abroad, triggered them to investigate the student further."

It was very probably that, more than the book request. It's something that has to be done routinely. The part about the agents having brought the book with them without leaving it with the student was odd. ...might've been written out of context to raise suspicion, though. Their copy might not have been from the library.
37 posted on 12/18/2005 2:26:57 AM PST by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President George Bush)
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They should go after the evil Maoists in Congress.


39 posted on 12/18/2005 3:23:29 AM PST by Bon mots
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When you see his contact list, I can only thank the folks at Homeland Security for letting this creep know that it's not about the library but his contacts.


40 posted on 12/18/2005 4:36:07 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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Somewhere, in what feels like another life ago, back when I was a smarmy 15 year old about 1970, I had to have that book for a social studies class (we were comparing communism to capitalism, with Capitalism being shown the winner), and I would occasionally take the book with me on the bus as I went cross town just to see if I could shock anyone.


42 posted on 12/18/2005 4:40:56 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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I
Don't
Buy
This
For
One
Effing
Nanosecond.

"Student didn't come forward"? "Professors report"?

Smelly, stinking pile of male-bovine-derived roadapples!


43 posted on 12/18/2005 5:14:16 AM PST by Appalled but Not Surprised
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Williams said he had been planning to offer a course on terrorism next semester, but is reconsidering, because it might put his students at risk.

So I have to ask, since the "student" didn't come forward, did the prof, have his permission to do so? IF this happened, there are so many holes in this story, it sounds custom crafted to fit the template of the moment,(see, they're watching you, watching what you read, what you say, see, nobody is safe,)

Also, this bit, " They brought the book with them, but did not leave it with the student, the professors said. Williams said in his research, he regularly contacts people in Afghanistan, Chechnya and other Muslim hot spots, and suspects that some of his calls are monitored.", seems odd, why do we need to know they kept the book? Gratuitous crap to show how evil agents won't even let the poor guy get his info for his lousey little term paper? IOW, if this were the case, perhaps they were visiting other students who had requested this book, or it may be entirely false. Seems like the prof, (who "told" the paper, that a student "told" him, that the agents "told" him....) might actually be more in the sights of this investigation (if there is one) than the students. The book itself is not rare or hard to find. Given the prof's background, it seems most likely. But the student also has some interesting things in his background. And yeah, just who is the student afraid of? Hmmmmm?

Did the student (he is so afraid) tell the professor, because the visit was about the professor? Or did he tell him something like, "we are so busted." Inquiring minds want to know. This smacks of lies by the prof. Getting his spin out first. I am as nervous as anyone about giving the gov't rights to monitor private activities without a good reason. But the good reason might be here.

44 posted on 12/18/2005 5:17:47 AM PST by Kay Syrah
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