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Radio Address by the President to the Nation (A MUST READ)
The White House ^ | dec. 167 2005 | president bush

Posted on 12/17/2005 8:29:40 AM PST by blogblogginaway

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To: Aeronaut

"I know it's not biblical, but I am really starting to hate the democrats and the leftists. (I have despised them all along but this feeling is much stronger.)"

When we become aware of an individual or a group of people who put our families and way of life in jeopardy for their darkside agendas, it is very hard not to hate them.

9/11 woke up a lot of Americans who just want to get along with everyone. Unfortunately, some have been lulled back to their narcoleptic state.


121 posted on 12/17/2005 9:42:29 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Link to Great TV ad re rat traitors and their words re Iraq: http://www.gop.com/Media/120905.wmv)
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To: 57chevypreterist
Coalition especially concerned about the Patriot Act defining terrorism as "... .to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion." Those definitions are so broad it is an open invitation for the government to harass and attack any groups who use public demonstrations or peaceful civil disobedience to "influence" government policy.

I think this individual is making a very silly and untenable argument. I do not think the definition quoted is a violation of the Constitution. If you think otherwise, feel free to explain.

122 posted on 12/17/2005 9:43:26 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: Aeronaut

I am right there with you.

I really feel they are a threat to our way of life. A serious threat.


123 posted on 12/17/2005 9:43:39 AM PST by riri
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To: blogblogginaway
And since September the 11th, we've been on the offensive against the terrorists plotting within our borders.

Ah, so that's why we still have an unsecured southern border, and 11~15M ILLEGAL and UNKNOWN aliens in the country you want to give amnesty to.

I get it...

124 posted on 12/17/2005 9:44:34 AM PST by DTogo (Merry CHRISTmas, and a healthy & happy New Year!)
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To: 57chevypreterist

Thanks! that is much better stated and put. I am convinced it is constitutionsl, you are not convinced... I can live with disagreeing! LOL!

I don't think us here at Freep would be suportive of the Patriot Act if we found it being abused...so far, we have not seen this, and it has been useful. One of the beautiful things about the act is that it is not a permanent thing... it is a temporary thing that needs to be reviewed and re-instituted. I think this is the best way to use it a a great tool in the fight against terror attacts, but at the same time, protect US citizens against it being abused....


125 posted on 12/17/2005 9:44:51 AM PST by eeevil conservative (courage is living in tyranny and speaking for freedom/not living in freedom and speaking for tyranny)
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To: MizSterious
I'm "assuming" because last night I heard someone who seemed to have a lot of good points say he thought it came from the CIA, and that it's part of a concerted effort to bring down the President. We'll see--it will probably come out, or someone on FR will drag it out. I can agree that there are a number of senators and representatives that would happily do the same.

My only point was that we have to keep our powder dry before we assume that agency "x" or "y" was the source of a given leak. Whoever is pointing the finger at CIA may him/her self be the victim of a "red herring" passed off by the actual leaker. Remember the old adage: "Assume" makes an "ass" of u and me.

126 posted on 12/17/2005 9:45:01 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: 57chevypreterist

Do your own homework......try the FR search engine, google, and freepers who have more spare time than I do right now. I do know that he not to be trusted.


127 posted on 12/17/2005 9:45:50 AM PST by Carolinamom (Winter is in my head , but eternal spring is in my heart. ---Victor Hugo)
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To: Bahbah

If you read down a little further, you will see where Rev. Mahoney was arrested in the name of "national security" for peaceably holding a sign saying "God Bless America".

It seems that the type of government abuse of citizens which Rev. Mahoney experienced is permitted by the Patriot Act, which is what caused him to make his argument.

Put it this way: Would you trust President Rodham with the Patriot Act? :-)


128 posted on 12/17/2005 9:50:37 AM PST by 57chevypreterist (Remember, your orthodoxy was once heresy.)
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To: eeevil conservative

Put it this way: Would you trust President Rodham with the Patriot Act? :-)



129 posted on 12/17/2005 9:51:47 AM PST by 57chevypreterist (Remember, your orthodoxy was once heresy.)
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To: Aeronaut

It is okay to hate evil


130 posted on 12/17/2005 9:51:57 AM PST by Citizen Soldier
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To: Big E
Very few seem to be standing with him. Even Conservatives are buying the lies in the media (for example, about the NSA "spying" without cause).

I think he will be the best President ever in my generation whether people agree or not.
131 posted on 12/17/2005 9:52:36 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Carolinamom

Ok, I will. I assumed (perhaps wrongly) that because of Baldwin's piece that Thompson may have been accurate in his reporting. Baldwin goes out of his way in the piece to suggest that Thompson may not be all that forthcoming, yet that his reporting of the incident may still have some merit.


132 posted on 12/17/2005 9:54:14 AM PST by 57chevypreterist (Remember, your orthodoxy was once heresy.)
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To: 57chevypreterist

LOL! I don't trust her with IRS!

That is why I posted that part of the beauty of this act is that it is TEMPORARY and needs to be reviewed and re-instituted. see my post #125


133 posted on 12/17/2005 9:54:33 AM PST by eeevil conservative (courage is living in tyranny and speaking for freedom/not living in freedom and speaking for tyranny)
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To: Citizen Soldier

hey! Be nice! (lol)


134 posted on 12/17/2005 9:55:02 AM PST by eeevil conservative (courage is living in tyranny and speaking for freedom/not living in freedom and speaking for tyranny)
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To: 57chevypreterist

I'm with you. I'm glad that the senate filibustered. Some of the patriot act, namely a certain 16 provisions, need to expire, though I imagine they'll get either a three month or one year extension, instead of the permanent extension the president wants.

Look how the patriot act supporters use fear to try and pass it. It's flat-out disgusting. Live free or die!


135 posted on 12/17/2005 9:55:44 AM PST by NapkinUser ("Our troops have become the enemy." -Representative John P. Murtha, modern day Benedict Arnold.)
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To: eeevil conservative

LOL! I said "evil", not "eevil", a horse of a differnt color.


136 posted on 12/17/2005 9:57:21 AM PST by Citizen Soldier
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To: blogblogginaway

Should have gotten a declaration of war from Congress--wouldn't be having these problems now.


137 posted on 12/17/2005 9:57:22 AM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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To: Citizen Soldier

LOL!! :-)


138 posted on 12/17/2005 9:57:51 AM PST by eeevil conservative (courage is living in tyranny and speaking for freedom/not living in freedom and speaking for tyranny)
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To: Bernard Marx
Tell us how you, personally, would go about finding and stopping leaks in any organization.

Is torture illegal in this instance?

139 posted on 12/17/2005 9:59:04 AM PST by Stentor
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To: kesg

What is the Sunday night address all about? First I heard of it.


140 posted on 12/17/2005 9:59:28 AM PST by JOE6PAK ("We'll be Heironymus Bosch in Jest a Minute, but Faust...")
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