Posted on 12/17/2005 3:58:48 AM PST by PatrickHenry
Back up the wagon, Spanky. The poster didn't address the citation. The poster took a swing at Hovind in ignorance of the citation - presumably having foreknowledge of the citation and presuming to know of which he spoke. As the facts have it - Hovind reads much of his presentation on the big bang right out of photographed slides of the school textbooks and from statements made in science publications. Anyone having seen any of his seminars knows this. That's why it was apparent that he had not seen it and had no clue what he was talking about. So, NO, the original poster did not deal with the citation. Get your facts straight.
No. Sorry. That is not enough. The word Dinosaur is a relatively recent invention. Many creatures thusly classed have names in modern cultures.. rendering your ASSUMPTIONS about "dinosaurs" to be as useful as your ASSUMPTIONS about 14C, the speed of light, etc. We have differing views on science, apparently. I think you shut up and let the evidence speak for itself as you find it. You think you make up your mind and reject any evidence that doesn't fit the fiction you created. The latter seems to lead to long fostered ignorance in practice. So, I tend to favor my approach.
I've a middle aged nephew and his wife that accepts everything Dr. Dino says as fact. I've the sense they have been led to believe they must accept Dr. Dino's teachings to prove their faith in God and Jesus Christ or heaven will be lost to them. That's scary as heck.
I have severe reservations with both the evolutionary crowd and these folks like Dr. Dino. I'm satisfied believing God knows how all came into being. I think the truth is yet to be discovered.
Funny (or sad) as it may sound, I posed a couple simple questions to my nephew in regard to time. One of the questions was, "Is a day today equal in actual time to a day say a thousand or 5,000 years ago?" He told me the Jews had developed a clock at the dawn of time and it has remained constant ever since. How it was possible for the Jews to construct such a clock before they were created baffles me. How my nephew could believe this baffles me more.
The Dr. Dino crowd do the same exact thing the evolutionists do. They try to make things fit their theories, but really only succeed in misleading people.
Yeah, it's sad.
That's the major reason I partake. The quality of the creo opposition has varied over the years; early on were the thoughtful ones (very few of whom show up in current threads), but beginning with the Crevo Wars of 2003 the quality of posters dropped considerably, even after all the bannings. Of the 80 or so names on the "Black Wall" a goodly portion were lost during this time.
Since God created man in His image, God has wisdom teeth. Now, why God would need more teeth than His jaw will hold (which is true of humanity) is beyond me. Indeed, why God needs a back not quite fit for upright stance but no longer useful for a quadruped, or why His knees are so poorly engineered so as to suffer from strain-related disorders baffles me considerably ...
Unless... it was man who created God in his image.
Can you speak - any of you without creating elaborate false constructs? Is it possible?
Evidence is evidence is evidence. Evidence for "what" is the point. You have bones in museums. Bully for you. You assume a lot based on what you find and based on other assumptions. Mostly you assume. That means all you've really done is construct a fiction you happen to like that may be true IF your assumptions are right. The if part is your problem. It isn't a matter of overturning evidence. It's a matter of rejecting the assumptions - the "spin" as it were that you've put on the reporting thereof. There is no evidence that is problematic to man and "dinosaurs" living on the planet at the same time. The only problem is your "spin".. and I don't see that as a problem.
It bothers me that you spend any time at all responding to the idiocies posted by people who are obviously trolling. But since you've done so about the ping list, and the insane claim that I use the list when I've failed ...
"... to convince the un-washed they are out of their league, ping 50 or so of your distinguished scientist buddies and have them join the thread. The shear number of insults should begin to discourage the provocateur and others."So, here's your response: You're correct and the mindless troll is wrong. Is anyone surprised? The ping list isn't a cry for help (but being a creationist troll certainly seems to be just that).
I prefer to use the list immediately, as soon as I've posted a thread I think will be of interest to the list members. If I haven't posted the thread myself, but learn about it early enough, then I sometimes agonize over whether it's "pingworthy" or should be ignored, and as most of the regulars are aware, I often seek other opinions about the quality of the thread before I deploy the list.
I try to ping very early in a thread, before it gets all wucked up by idiotic posters (who inevitably get their thrills by putting up star wars pics, claiming evolution is anti-Christian, and asking why there are still monkeys), because when a thread becomes loaded up with that troll trash too early, it's of no interest to rational freepers.
Contrary to the claim of the mindless troll, such garbage postings don't create intellectual problems that any one of us can't handle, or that require the summoning of help. Rather, they're like the presence of raw sewage at the early stage of the thread, which will discourage list members and rational newbies from participating. When many such remarks come in later, well after the ping (as in this thread) then I ignore them, but by then everyone's already in the thread, and some of us find the psychology of trolls to be entertaining.
Anyway, contrary to the deranged fantasy of the mindless troll, I don't use the ping list as a cry for help. I do it because I'm pretty sure after all this time what will interest the list and what won't.
Nice.
They're both on my VI list, anyway. Fanatics should at least be amusing, and neither of them is. But I couldn't resist eleni121's idiotic 'correction' of someone else's misspelling with her own.
Mou de lawn.
;^)
There ya go!
My wisdom teeth are over 50 years old and my jaw has no problems holding them.
Go figger.....
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