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Senate Blocks Extension of Patriot Act (and the left and Al Qaeda cheered in unison)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/16/05 | Jesse J. Holland - ap

Posted on 12/16/2005 9:47:11 AM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - The Senate on Friday rejected attempts to reauthorize several provisions of the USA Patriot Act as infringing too much on Americans' privacy, dealing a major defeat to President Bush and Republican leaders.

In a crucial vote Friday morning as Congress raced toward adjournment, the bill's Senate supporters were not able to garner the 60 votes necessary to overcome a threatened filibuster by Sens. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., and Larry Craig, R-Idaho, and their allies. The final vote was 52-47

Bush, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and GOP congressional leaders had lobbied fiercely to make most of the expiring Patriot Act provisions permanent, and add new safeguards and expiration dates to the two most controversial parts: roving wiretaps and secret warrants for books, records and other items from businesses, hospitals and organizations such as libraries.

Making most of the act's provisions permanent was a priority for both the Bush administration and Republican leaders on Capitol Hill before Congress adjourns for the year.

The House on Wednesday passed a House-Senate compromise bill to renew the Act that supporters say added significant safeguards to the law.

But the law's critics, such as Feingold and Craig, say they don't want the Patriot Act to expire — they just want enough time to improve the bill to the point where it doesn't infringe on American liberties. Bush, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, and House Speaker Dennis Hastert have said they won't accept a short-term extension of the law.

"In the war on terror, we cannot afford to be without these vital tools for a single moment," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said earlier today before the Senate vote.

Congress passed the Patriot Act overwhelmingly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The law expanded the government's surveillance and prosecutorial powers against suspected terrorists, their associates and financiers.

The bill's opponents say the original act was rushed into law, and Congress should take more time now to make sure the rights of innocent Americans are safeguarded before making most of the expiring provisions permanent.

They say the current Patriot Act gives government too much power to investigate people's private lives.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; abledanger; blocks; extension; gorelickwall; gwot; patriotact; senate; waitforhillary
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To: macamadamia

It's not. The 9/11 attack that killed thousands of people in a single day was committed by hijackers who were living in the US with expired visas. Secure our borders and the Patriot Act will be moot.


41 posted on 12/16/2005 10:23:54 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters
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To: Wuli
The patriot act extended the "sneak and peak" investigative powers to terrorism investigations and like organized crime investigations, require a judge to approve the warrants for them.

What you wrote is technically true, and the language technically correct, and that's the problem. The law requires the judge to approve the warrants. There is judicial oversight only in the sense that the judge sees the warrant going across his desk.

The Constitution requires warrants to be issued by a judge. The judge was to be the check against police abuse. I doubt the Founders envisioned the concept where a judge has no discretion on whether to issue a warrant.

42 posted on 12/16/2005 10:24:24 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: G.Mason

True. But Flip Wilson's post has the general idea. But if you need more than that, let me know.


43 posted on 12/16/2005 10:24:32 AM PST by pissant
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To: Blue Turtle

51 republicans voted for cloture

2 dems voted for cloture

There is a huge difference between the parties


44 posted on 12/16/2005 10:24:32 AM PST by johnmecainrino
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To: NormsRevenge
...garner the 60 votes necessary to overcome a threatened filibuster

So once again our side is threatened and folds without making them actually go through with the filibuster.

What a bunch of girlymen we have in our party!

45 posted on 12/16/2005 10:24:59 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: G.Mason

Quote: "Bush will steamroll the senators on this one."
Of course, you won't mind 'splainin that, would you?

Yes, you saw how Bush's numbers went up when he took on the Democrats regarding the Iraq War? Well, one thing is for sure, while America may be uncertain over the Iraq War, it is not uncertain at all over homeland security issues. Bush won't have to work very hard to make a few Senators very uncomfortable, very quickly.


46 posted on 12/16/2005 10:25:04 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: jagusafr
And Senator Corsine hours before was wanting the Act to be subject to Pork Barrel appropriations for his state of New Jersey....forget us folks in Fly Over Country!

Anyone know the Republican Senators that voted against the renewal of the Patriot Act?

Rush need to do a roll call so we call know who these Senatorial terrorist supporters are!
47 posted on 12/16/2005 10:25:49 AM PST by not2worry (What Goes Around Comes Around!)
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To: NormsRevenge

You mean I'm going to have to say "Thank you" to a bunch of Democrats? Ick!


48 posted on 12/16/2005 10:25:52 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: NormsRevenge

Frist is listed as a nay vote. Is that right?


49 posted on 12/16/2005 10:25:54 AM PST by The Inspector
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To: NormsRevenge

This can be layed directly at our old friend Bob Barr's feet. He and his aclu buddies have gotten what the wanted. Ole Bob has gone over to the dark side.


50 posted on 12/16/2005 10:25:58 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (We will never murtha to the terrorists. Bring home the troops means bring home the war.)
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To: BinaryBoy
Our focus should be on securing our borders instead of invading the privacy of Americans.

Has your privacy been invaded? Just curious.

51 posted on 12/16/2005 10:26:13 AM PST by Stajack
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To: NormsRevenge

They caved to the "threat" of a filibuster?

If they're going to put America at risk, they should at least have to conduct a real filibuster.


52 posted on 12/16/2005 10:27:03 AM PST by SmithL (Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Lift up your gates and sing, Hosana in the highest! Hosana to your King!)
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To: BinaryBoy

"This is a good thing. Our focus should be on securing our borders instead of invading the privacy of Americans."

Thank you. The Bushbots are making a mockery out of Conservatism.


53 posted on 12/16/2005 10:29:27 AM PST by Shermy
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To: NormsRevenge

Craig and Feingold - honorary Al Qaeda cell members.


54 posted on 12/16/2005 10:29:31 AM PST by Truth29
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To: The Inspector

Frist voted Nay for procedural reasons so that he can bring this up for a vote again before December 31st.


55 posted on 12/16/2005 10:29:35 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: BinaryBoy
Secure our borders and the Patriot Act will be moot.


Logic is not your friend. Securing the borders is an obvious necessity, but it isn't a panacea.
56 posted on 12/16/2005 10:29:53 AM PST by macamadamia (The great dangerous non-sequitur du jour: oil-independence will stop terrorism.)
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To: Stajack

I don't know. If any of my emails have been searched by the government, then yes, but there's no way of knowing.


57 posted on 12/16/2005 10:30:07 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters
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To: FlipWilson; pissant
" ... The Senate just handed Bush a HAMMER with which to beat the living crapola out of the dems with this year and for the rest of the year ..."


How I wish you were right.


Bush wouldn't use a "HAMMER" if he had one.

The American public could care less, [not to mention that half the voting population wants US out] and unless there is another dramatic and devastating attack on our soil, this is a done deal with the Dems and spineless Repubs in bed with each other and against Bush.


Three more years of this? Give me a freaking break!





58 posted on 12/16/2005 10:31:04 AM PST by G.Mason (Others have died for my freedom; now this is my mark ... Marine Corporal Jeffrey Starr, KIA 04-30-05)
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To: pissant

The left is going to be the death of this country. Can anyone do something about the "traitorus Spectre"? Why is he even there.?


59 posted on 12/16/2005 10:31:13 AM PST by Burlem
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To: abercrombie_guy_38
"Exactly how does the Patriot Act invade the privacy of Americans? Give me specific examples because I'm very much interested."

The specific examples written at this site may be good place for you to get started:

May 19, 2003 issue
Copyright © 2003

The American Conservative

Surveillance State

Since September 11, a flood of federal legislation has reduced American freedom without increasing our security.

Semper Fi

60 posted on 12/16/2005 10:31:17 AM PST by An Old Man (USMC 1956 1960)
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