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Report of NSA Spying Prompts Call for Probe (by Arlen Specter)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/16/05 | Jennifer Loven - ap

Posted on 12/16/2005 9:14:12 AM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - A key Republican committee chairman put the Bush administration on notice Friday that his panel would hold hearings into a report that the National Security Agency eavesdropped without warrants on people inside the United States.

Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., said he would make oversight hearings by his panel next year "a very, very high priority."

"There is no doubt that this is inappropriate," said Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican and chairman of the Judiciary Committee.

Other key bipartisan members of Congress also called on the administration to explain and said a congressional investigation may be necessary.

Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), R-Ariz., appeared annoyed that the first he had heard of such a program was through a New York Times story published Friday. He said the report was troubling.

Neither Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice nor White House press secretary Scott McClellan, asked about the story earlier Friday, would confirm or deny that the super-secret NSA had spied on as many as 500 people at any given time since 2002.

That year, following the Sept. 11 attacks, Bush authorized the NSA to monitor the international phone calls and international e-mails of hundreds — perhaps thousands — of people inside the United States, the Times reported.

Before the program began, the NSA typically limited its domestic surveillance to foreign embassies and missions and obtained court orders for such investigations. Overseas, 5,000 to 7,000 people suspected of terrorist ties are monitored at one time.

"We need to look into that," McCain told reporters at the White House after a meeting on Iraq with President Bush. "Theoretically, I obviously wouldn't like it. But I don't know the extent of it and I don't know enough about it to really make an informed comment. Ask me again in about a week."

McCain said it's not clear whether a congressional probe is warranted. He said the topic had not come up in the meeting with Bush.

"We should be informed as to exactly what is going on and then find out whether an investigation is called for," he said.

Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., also said he needed more information.

"Of course I was concerned about the story," said Lieberman, who also attended the White House Iraq meeting. "I'm going to go back to the office and see if I can find out more about it."

Other Democrats were more harsh.

"This is Big Brother run amok," declared Sen. Edward Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), D-Mass. "We cannot protect our borders if we cannot protect our ideals." Sen. Russell Feingold, D-Wis., called it a "shocking revelation" that he said "ought to send a chill down the spine of every senator and every American."

Administration officials reacted to the report by asserting that the president has respected the Constitution while striving to protect the American people.

Rice said Bush has "acted lawfully in every step that he has taken." And McClellan said Bush "is going to remain fully committed to upholding our Constitution and protect the civil liberties of the American people. And he has done both."

The report surfaced in an untimely fashion as the administration and its GOP allies on Capitol Hill were fighting to save provisions of the expiring USA Patriot Act that they believe are key tools in the fight against terrorism.

The Times said reporters interviewed nearly a dozen current and former administration officials about the program and granted them anonymity because of the classified nature of the program.

Government officials credited the new program with uncovering several terrorist plots, including one by Iyman Faris, an Ohio trucker who pleaded guilty in 2003 to supporting al-Qaida by planning to destroy the Brooklyn Bridge, the report said.

Faris' lawyer, David B. Smith, said on Friday the news puzzled him because none of the evidence against Faris appeared to have come from surveillance, other than officials eavesdropping on his cell phone calls while he was in FBI custody.

Some NSA officials were so concerned about the legality of the program that they refused to participate, the Times said. Questions about the legality of the program led the administration to temporarily suspend it last year and impose new restrictions.

Asked about this on NBC's "Today" show, Rice said, "I'm not going to comment on intelligence matters."

Caroline Fredrickson, director of the Washington legislative office of the American Civil Liberties Union, said the group's initial reaction to the NSA disclosure was "shock that the administration has gone so far in violating American civil liberties to the extent where it seems to be a violation of federal law."

Asked about the administration's contention that the eavesdropping has disrupted terrorist attacks, Fredrickson said the ACLU couldn't comment until it sees some evidence. "They've veiled these powers in secrecy so there's no way for Congress or any independent organizations to exercise any oversight."

Earlier this week, the Pentagon said it was reviewing its use of a classified database of information about suspicious people and activity inside the United States after a report by NBC News said the database listed activities of anti-war groups that were not a security threat to Pentagon property or personnel.

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said that while it appears that some information may have been left in the database longer than it should have been, it was not clear yet whether mistakes were made. A written statement issued by the department implied — but did not explicitly acknowledge — that some information had been handled improperly.

The administration had briefed congressional leaders about the NSA program and notified the judge in charge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the secret Washington court that handles national security issues.

Aides to National Intelligence Director John Negroponte and West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, declined to comment Thursday night.

The Times said it delayed publication of the report for a year because the White House said it could jeopardize continuing investigations and alert would-be terrorists that they might be under scrutiny. The Times said it omitted information from the story that administration officials argued could be useful to terrorists.


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To: Jigsaw John
Well of course they are both security issues. I never said they were exactly the same. You are the one that stated conducting warrantless electronic surveillance within our borders for the purpose of making our country secure and safer was (apples and oranges) compared to securing our borders.

I think you're confused, and I know that the above comment has me confused....

61 posted on 12/16/2005 10:26:42 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
58 is a pretty straight forward question.

Would you not agree?

62 posted on 12/16/2005 10:28:28 AM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: NormsRevenge
Don't know about this yet. Not too concerned given how open all our communication is now to being monitored and viewed by the guy next door...wireless, etc...

I keep thinking about that computer sitting with 911 information on it for months in FBI hands...and they couldn't look at it...because they didn't have a warrant... The plans went on, the plans were hijacked, the Towers fell, people died, we are at War... and just as a lot of the monster has been beaten down... here comes the NYT...outrage...no warrants.... And Congress that cannot keep a Secret about anything wanting to investigate...

63 posted on 12/16/2005 10:29:09 AM PST by SergeantsLady (I support my soldier by supporting the mission he believes in...Iraqi Freedom.)
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To: NormsRevenge

As Jack Nicholson said in A Few Good Men, "All you did was weaken a country today . . . That's all you did. You put people in danger. Sweet dreams."


64 posted on 12/16/2005 10:32:08 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: NormsRevenge
Oversight of this is handled by the intelligence committee, and it appears to have already have been investigated by them but reports have not yet been released.

Arlen Specter is one again abusing his chairmanship of the judiciary committee. He should be removed from that position.
65 posted on 12/16/2005 10:32:15 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: TexasCajun

Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., said he would make oversight hearings by his panel next year "a very, very high priority."

Well looks like the Alito hearings are now on for 2Q06.


66 posted on 12/16/2005 10:33:51 AM PST by hubbubhubbub
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Readers can of course expect Fitzgerald to quickly impanel a grand jury, to find the source of this leak.

I believe this is going to be investigated by the Super Sleuth from Pennsylvania - Arlen Spector.

67 posted on 12/16/2005 10:39:52 AM PST by IamConservative (Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times will pick himself up and carry on.)
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To: NormsRevenge

What a whole lot of nothing. Since this was ordered during a time of war it was already authorized by the congress. If anyone feels their civil rights were violated they have a right to sue the NSA in court.


68 posted on 12/16/2005 10:41:11 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: NormsRevenge; All

After all the crap coming from my Republican Party representatives, I get an RNC fundraising request in the mail today.

I almost tore it up, but I'm trying to decide on what is the best course of action.

Any suggestions?


69 posted on 12/16/2005 10:44:01 AM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: NormsRevenge

"The administration had briefed congressional leaders about the NSA program and notified the judge in charge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the secret Washington court that handles national security issues."

The sentence above indicates the people scoped were foreign nationals, probably on work or student visa's, and not American citizens. 100% legal.


70 posted on 12/16/2005 10:46:37 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Some NSA officials were so concerned about the legality of the program that they refused to participate

IIRC, standard practice in the NSA if they accidentally intercept domestic communications is to report it, destroy those communications beyond recovery, and report the verification of the destruction. They're pretty serious about not overstepping their bounds.

I can see how some employees would be wary of being told to purposely record domestic communications.

71 posted on 12/16/2005 10:54:00 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: NormsRevenge

Yeah sure - we'll have hearings. How about right after the Able Danger hearings?


72 posted on 12/16/2005 10:56:16 AM PST by SueRae
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To: 4integrity

and john mccain is in those ranks


73 posted on 12/16/2005 10:58:37 AM PST by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
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To: airborne

Get a big red magic marker and write your "NO EFFING WAY" response to it...all over, big red letters..."GET A SPINE"..."NO RINOS"..."DEFEND AMERICA"...etc...

Return.

Been doing it for a couple of years now, but they still send me the garbage. I will NOT ever give them a penny until...

G


74 posted on 12/16/2005 11:00:57 AM PST by GRRRRR (America is a better place because of people like us...)
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To: GRRRRR

LMAO!

That's definitely an option I'll consider!


75 posted on 12/16/2005 11:04:34 AM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: sargunner
I see. Then your comment:

Don't worry, just keep repeating "the government is here to help us. they will do the right thing" over and over. It works for me, especially during periods of heavy alcohol intake...

...was just sarcasm, and not the rantings of a paranoid DU-type conspiracist? Okay, thanks for clarifying that...

76 posted on 12/16/2005 11:17:00 AM PST by aligncare (I used to think the Democrats were just wrong...Now, I know better.)
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To: airborne

Send money to individual candidates who are in tough races...Forget the RNC.


77 posted on 12/16/2005 11:21:23 AM PST by aligncare (I used to think the Democrats were just wrong...Now, I know better.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Rush said that this would be just like CFR: One bad piece of legislation would lead to another. He was right.

First McCain and his leftist buddies tied our troops hands with an idiotic ban of "torture." Next step is to gut the NSA so the jihadis and Chinese can run wild. Good work McStain! We will remember when the primaries roll around.

78 posted on 12/16/2005 12:40:58 PM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Next the American people will believe that the FBI also operates within the letter of the law. What ignorance.


79 posted on 12/16/2005 12:42:53 PM PST by cynicom
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To: YOUGOTIT

It's ok for you to call them "so called Americans (Republicans) in the US senate" but not I? Come on now decide what side of the fence you're on.


80 posted on 12/16/2005 12:47:01 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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