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Report of NSA Spying Prompts Call for Probe (by Arlen Specter)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/16/05 | Jennifer Loven - ap

Posted on 12/16/2005 9:14:12 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: Jigsaw John
Well of course they are both security issues. I never said they were exactly the same. You are the one that stated conducting warrantless electronic surveillance within our borders for the purpose of making our country secure and safer was (apples and oranges) compared to securing our borders.

I think you're confused, and I know that the above comment has me confused....

61 posted on 12/16/2005 10:26:42 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
58 is a pretty straight forward question.

Would you not agree?

62 posted on 12/16/2005 10:28:28 AM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: NormsRevenge
Don't know about this yet. Not too concerned given how open all our communication is now to being monitored and viewed by the guy next door...wireless, etc...

I keep thinking about that computer sitting with 911 information on it for months in FBI hands...and they couldn't look at it...because they didn't have a warrant... The plans went on, the plans were hijacked, the Towers fell, people died, we are at War... and just as a lot of the monster has been beaten down... here comes the NYT...outrage...no warrants.... And Congress that cannot keep a Secret about anything wanting to investigate...

63 posted on 12/16/2005 10:29:09 AM PST by SergeantsLady (I support my soldier by supporting the mission he believes in...Iraqi Freedom.)
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To: NormsRevenge

As Jack Nicholson said in A Few Good Men, "All you did was weaken a country today . . . That's all you did. You put people in danger. Sweet dreams."


64 posted on 12/16/2005 10:32:08 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: NormsRevenge
Oversight of this is handled by the intelligence committee, and it appears to have already have been investigated by them but reports have not yet been released.

Arlen Specter is one again abusing his chairmanship of the judiciary committee. He should be removed from that position.
65 posted on 12/16/2005 10:32:15 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: TexasCajun

Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., said he would make oversight hearings by his panel next year "a very, very high priority."

Well looks like the Alito hearings are now on for 2Q06.


66 posted on 12/16/2005 10:33:51 AM PST by hubbubhubbub
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Readers can of course expect Fitzgerald to quickly impanel a grand jury, to find the source of this leak.

I believe this is going to be investigated by the Super Sleuth from Pennsylvania - Arlen Spector.

67 posted on 12/16/2005 10:39:52 AM PST by IamConservative (Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times will pick himself up and carry on.)
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To: NormsRevenge

What a whole lot of nothing. Since this was ordered during a time of war it was already authorized by the congress. If anyone feels their civil rights were violated they have a right to sue the NSA in court.


68 posted on 12/16/2005 10:41:11 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: NormsRevenge; All

After all the crap coming from my Republican Party representatives, I get an RNC fundraising request in the mail today.

I almost tore it up, but I'm trying to decide on what is the best course of action.

Any suggestions?


69 posted on 12/16/2005 10:44:01 AM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: NormsRevenge

"The administration had briefed congressional leaders about the NSA program and notified the judge in charge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the secret Washington court that handles national security issues."

The sentence above indicates the people scoped were foreign nationals, probably on work or student visa's, and not American citizens. 100% legal.


70 posted on 12/16/2005 10:46:37 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Some NSA officials were so concerned about the legality of the program that they refused to participate

IIRC, standard practice in the NSA if they accidentally intercept domestic communications is to report it, destroy those communications beyond recovery, and report the verification of the destruction. They're pretty serious about not overstepping their bounds.

I can see how some employees would be wary of being told to purposely record domestic communications.

71 posted on 12/16/2005 10:54:00 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: NormsRevenge

Yeah sure - we'll have hearings. How about right after the Able Danger hearings?


72 posted on 12/16/2005 10:56:16 AM PST by SueRae
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To: 4integrity

and john mccain is in those ranks


73 posted on 12/16/2005 10:58:37 AM PST by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
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To: airborne

Get a big red magic marker and write your "NO EFFING WAY" response to it...all over, big red letters..."GET A SPINE"..."NO RINOS"..."DEFEND AMERICA"...etc...

Return.

Been doing it for a couple of years now, but they still send me the garbage. I will NOT ever give them a penny until...

G


74 posted on 12/16/2005 11:00:57 AM PST by GRRRRR (America is a better place because of people like us...)
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To: GRRRRR

LMAO!

That's definitely an option I'll consider!


75 posted on 12/16/2005 11:04:34 AM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: sargunner
I see. Then your comment:

Don't worry, just keep repeating "the government is here to help us. they will do the right thing" over and over. It works for me, especially during periods of heavy alcohol intake...

...was just sarcasm, and not the rantings of a paranoid DU-type conspiracist? Okay, thanks for clarifying that...

76 posted on 12/16/2005 11:17:00 AM PST by aligncare (I used to think the Democrats were just wrong...Now, I know better.)
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To: airborne

Send money to individual candidates who are in tough races...Forget the RNC.


77 posted on 12/16/2005 11:21:23 AM PST by aligncare (I used to think the Democrats were just wrong...Now, I know better.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Rush said that this would be just like CFR: One bad piece of legislation would lead to another. He was right.

First McCain and his leftist buddies tied our troops hands with an idiotic ban of "torture." Next step is to gut the NSA so the jihadis and Chinese can run wild. Good work McStain! We will remember when the primaries roll around.

78 posted on 12/16/2005 12:40:58 PM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Next the American people will believe that the FBI also operates within the letter of the law. What ignorance.


79 posted on 12/16/2005 12:42:53 PM PST by cynicom
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To: YOUGOTIT

It's ok for you to call them "so called Americans (Republicans) in the US senate" but not I? Come on now decide what side of the fence you're on.


80 posted on 12/16/2005 12:47:01 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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