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The Age of Autism: Question of the year (Why no straightforward study of autism in unvaccinated?)
United Press International ^ | December 13, 2005 | Dan Olmstead

Posted on 12/16/2005 7:19:57 AM PST by agsloss

The Age of Autism: Question of the year By DAN OLMSTED UPI Senior Editor

This was the year Big Media pitted parents against experts over whether vaccines cause autism -- and decided the experts are right. But they may have forgotten to ask an embarrassingly obvious question.

(Excerpt) Read more at upi.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: amish; autism; disorders; study; vaccines
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1 posted on 12/16/2005 7:20:02 AM PST by agsloss
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To: agsloss

Good article. I'm already reading up on this before I have children. Parents shouldn't allow their babies to be pumped with all kinds of vaccines without knowing what's in them. Also, diet has a lot to do with it too. I could get more into this but my house needs cleaning *lol*


2 posted on 12/16/2005 7:22:11 AM PST by cyborg (Polar Bear Club of One)
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To: agsloss

Is it not possible that autism may have some genetic factors that don't present themselves among the Amish, a very closed society? Perhaps not a good control group.

Does autism present itself in differing rates in different ethnic groups, with differences not explained by a likelihood among said groups to have vaccinations or not?


3 posted on 12/16/2005 7:26:06 AM PST by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: AbeKrieger

I don't much knowledge of autism and research, but it seems as if there are, tragically, a lot of conspiracy theories or perhaps legitimate theories which are slandered as "conspiracy theories."


4 posted on 12/16/2005 7:28:54 AM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: AbeKrieger

Autism almost exclusively affects boys; do only boys get vaccinated?


5 posted on 12/16/2005 7:32:47 AM PST by Redbob
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To: agsloss

Even if vaccinations increase the risk of autism which risk is greater? That is not to say the truth should not be known.


6 posted on 12/16/2005 7:33:29 AM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: agsloss
Autism isn't even clearly defined or described and there are no set standards for diagnosis.

It's sad how parents of children who have some problems are being manipulated by the usual suspects, Robert Kennedy Jr and other manipulators trying to demonize anything they can in terms of environment and health.

The whole issue is unfortunate.

7 posted on 12/16/2005 7:35:45 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: agsloss

There was a theory about thiomersal preservative in the vaccines being the cause, but that's pretty much been exploded (thiomersal stopped, but autism didn't).

But the double-whammy effect (there's a proper name for it but I can't remember it, sorry) where a child is vaccinated, shows autistic symptoms, recovers, gets vaccinated and AGAIN shows autistic symptoms convinced me that the vaccines are the disease. Iatrogenic disease didn't stop with the infamous Salk vaccine.

I must say I never thought to ask about unvaccinated autism. It just goes to show that there's no such thing as a stupid question.


8 posted on 12/16/2005 7:36:58 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: cyborg

We do pump our kids with a lot. My sister recently read a report on pesticide levels in children who ate "regular" food as opposed to organic. The difference in the levels in the children's bodies was shocking, even to the people who did the study. I am pretty sure the study was from the EPA, but not positive. I did vaccinate my kids, but did opt out of the prevnar one. We also waited for the 5 week check up to start vaccinating, I think there was a push to start them the first week. We have well water and won't give our children flouride drops after researching that either. I never had the drops and was raised on well water and have never had a cavity. Same goes for my husband.


9 posted on 12/16/2005 7:38:09 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel Shall come to thee, O Israel.)
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To: agere_contra
It just goes to show that there's no such thing as a stupid question.


Ever watch C-SPAN? :)
10 posted on 12/16/2005 7:39:24 AM PST by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: agere_contra

Hmm, the article seems to think that thimerosal is still being used in pediatric vaccination (in the US). I'm not in a position to judge, but another Freeper must know.


11 posted on 12/16/2005 7:40:47 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: P-40
Ever watch C-SPAN?

Lol! Oww, you blew me away there :0)

12 posted on 12/16/2005 7:41:55 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: WV Mountain Mama

I don't understand putting that stuff into a baby that's only a week old. Good thing with the well water... I use tooth powder that builds my teeth without flouride. I hardly drink tapwater.


13 posted on 12/16/2005 7:42:01 AM PST by cyborg (Polar Bear Club of One)
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To: AbeKrieger
Does autism present itself in differing rates in different ethnic groups, with differences not explained by a likelihood among said groups to have vaccinations or not?

Don't know. But autism has spiked in Europe too.

14 posted on 12/16/2005 7:43:29 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Redbob
Autism almost exclusively affects boys; do only boys get vaccinated?

Boys are more prone to genetic diseases and learning disablities than girls in general.

15 posted on 12/16/2005 7:45:52 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: agere_contra

"Hmm, the article seems to think that thimerosal is still being used in pediatric vaccination (in the US). I'm not in a position to judge, but another Freeper must know."

It is still being used. It's also used in flu shots, so if you've had yours, you got some.


16 posted on 12/16/2005 7:45:59 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs

"Boys are more prone to genetic diseases and learning disablities than girls in general."




Yeah, and besides that, they're smelly. They have lots of cooties, too. Girls rule! Boys drool!


17 posted on 12/16/2005 7:47:19 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan

Thanks for the confirmation Mineralman: I must say I'm amazed that a mercury compound is still being used in injections (other than the one Tookie Williams got). But thanks for the heads up.


18 posted on 12/16/2005 7:52:16 AM PST by agere_contra (A loaf of bread now costs $85,000 Zimbabwean dollars.)
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To: WV Mountain Mama

Thanks for bringing up the Prevnar vaccine. We are having our first baby in April, and I’m very curious about vaccines. I will now do some reading on Prevnar.


19 posted on 12/16/2005 8:06:10 AM PST by elc
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To: elc

I have four children ranging in age from 5 to 12. When our oldest was born, the conventional wisdom said to have all vaccinations completed by 18 months. By the time child #4 came along, it was a 12 month sprint.

Depending upon your views and research, do not hesitate to question your gp/pediatrician re: vaccinations and the scheduling thereof.

I put my foot down when they wanted to give multiple vaccinations at one time. By this I mean that the doctors wanted to give more than one kind of shot to the child (some of the vaccines are "combination" vaccines for more than one disease and are delivered in one shot). The doctors were proposing to deliver two or three of these combos in one visit.

I protested on the grounds that if the child had a reaction to the shots, how was I to tell to what the child reacted? The doctors recognized a tough old broad when they saw one and the old schedule of a completed course of vaccinations by 18 months was re-instituted.

It drove them nuts in terms of their special little charts, but I refused to back down.


20 posted on 12/16/2005 8:27:31 AM PST by Alice au Wonderland (I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was going to blame you.)
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