BYRD: "Amen!"
Posted on 12/14/2005 4:16:59 PM PST by SJackson
Amen!
Yes, that's true, but that came later after they served his purpose. Lets also not forget that there are 2 different kinds of Jews were are talking about. Those evil ones still have control in Russia's elite dark underside. They aren't really "Jews" at all. They are true communists.
"Life would be so much easier for many Jews if conservative Christians were open, rabid anti-Semites. Unfortunately for such Jews, these are found largely on the Left."
Fundamentalist chr*stians and those from a Fundamentalist chr*stian background (including yours truly) don't really see an absolute non-missionary position as the "moral high ground." The world is full of people who are starving for Truth and the only people who aren't in there giving it to them is the one people who has it. Also an absolutist non-missionary position (tee-hee--"missionary position!"--snigger, snigger) implies that there is no One Universal Truth that applies to all. I very much understand that Jews have never been charged of making the human race Jewish but that does not mean they are not charged with teaching the Truth to all mankind.
Plus do you know how confusing it is to be told that your religion is just fine and dandy by someone who would rather die than convert to it? That doesn't make any sense.
I plan be`ezrat HaShem to write an essay on proselytization (and the sore point it constitutes in Jewish/chr*stian relations) in the near future at my web site.
I wouldn't exactly call folks like Berozovsky "Communists." They are more like the Russian Jewish equivalent of La Cosa Nostra.
The only true communists in the world today are in North Korea, Cuba, and American college campuses.
I suppose I meant the higher ground in the sense that Jews have not used force to create converts to their religion.
Jesus Christ himself was Jewish....
The Choosen people biblically means that the 'house of David' was the tribe was chosen to be the one from which "the anointed one" Christ was to rise from. This has been completed. All mankind decents from the twelve tribes, which makes us all chosen, and equal.
There is no longer a 'chosen' people.
No but in non-mandatory wars (milchamot-reshut) people were given a choice of accepting the Noachide commandments and paying tribute or death. As a matter of fact, I believe in the coming War of Gog and Magog Mashiach will fulfill the duty originally gave to Moses (according to RaMBa"M): "compelling" (on pain of death) the nations of the world to adopt the Noachide Laws.
Then of course there are the mandatory wars (malchamot-mitzvah) in which the Seven Nations of Canaan and `Amaleq were to be utterly exterminated--men, women, children, and animals.
And I forgot the `ir haniddachat (a Jewish city that had strayed into idolatry) which was to be similarly exterminated and never built back provided all the criteria were met.
Granted, all the above are the commandments of the Living G-d but all religions believe they are similarly justified.
The point I'm trying to make is that Judaism is not the super liberal, super tolerant, absolutely-unstained-by-blood religion that most people today think it is. And it is precisely because Fundamentalist Protestants derive their knowledge of Jews and Judaism from the Book of Joshua rather than the National Jewish Democratic Council that liberal Jews so hate and despise them.
Unfortunately, the sad case of Jews who convert to chr*stianity (usually Fundamentalist Protestantism) gives a superficial unity to all Jews, Orthodox or liberal, who rightly condemn and oppose them. But Orthodox Jews condemn them for deserting the Torah while liberal Jews merely take advantage of the situation to create the impression that Judaism cannot tolerate religiosity.
Before Christ, we used to use the temple to offer sacrifices to God. Christ replaced that with himself. There is no longer any need for the temple, and Christ said so himself. That religion is dead and gone forever, what emerged from it was Judaism and Christianity.
I have a question: Why do you put an asterisk in the word chr*stian yet you do not capitalize the proper name?
Sorry,
has nothing to do with the rest of your post.
In adding this bit you place yourself in the very place I think you wanted to condemn....judging people by what they 'are' rather than what they 'do'.
"Failure to communicate" is not only inadequate, it's a cliche!
That 'black ministers' used it as a political lever on the President does not lend an iota of credibility to that cliche - it's used in that case as an alibi and must be answered with "it takes two to communicate" and "communication does not guarantee validity of the information being communicated".
True, faith and works are not the same, I believe that the Catholic Church held that against the Templars at one time and most bedrock believers abide by belief over works even today.
That would include bedrock socialists equally with bedrock fundamentalists.
In fact, "works" & "faith" apply to our present difficulties; blowing ourself up is a piece of work, driven by a perverse faith, but it is pretty clear communication.
"Life would be so much easier for many Jews if conservative Christians were open, rabid anti-Semites. Unfortunately for such Jews, these are found largely on the Left."
Go to any liberal website and the bigotry there would make a klansman proud.
BYRD: "Amen!"
There is no longer a 'chosen' people.
That makes G-d out to be a liar.
LostTribe, is that you?
Do I dare ask or will the reply shut down my server? ; (
How so?
Thank you rdb3 for the appreciated knowledge.
read your bible.
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