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To: Virginia-American
What do you think the appropriate reaction of astronomers should be if the government decides that astrology is as good as astronomy?

In conservative America the remedy is to win the debate in the public square. In liberal America the remedy is to entice the ACLU into taking the debate out of the public square and finding a plurality of judges to read emanations from penumbras.

112 posted on 12/14/2005 6:30:42 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
emanations from penumbras

The prohibition on the government against enacting anything "respecting an establishment of religion" is explicit. You may argue about how and when it ought apply, but that argument has not a thing to do with penumbras or their emanations.

113 posted on 12/14/2005 6:41:56 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: jwalsh07
[reaction of scientists to the forced teaching of nonscience as science]

In conservative America the remedy is to win the debate in the public square. In liberal America the remedy is ... finding a plurality of judges

Both of these are important. So far, all the court cases have been on 1st Amendment Establishment Clause grounds; my argument is that fraud and high crimes are also involved. One difference being that conviction of fraud, (nonsexual) child abuse, or high crimes affects the individual school board member or bureaucrat, not just the organization they work for.

Other appropriate (IMO) actions (not just by scientists) include strikes by science teachers, demonstrations, ridicule, actions by accrediting agencies, withholding of No Child Left Behind money, and I'm sure other things I haven't thought of.

118 posted on 12/14/2005 7:02:25 PM PST by Virginia-American
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