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To: Dimensio; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
[ Of course, later on he denied ever making those claims, so it could just be another case of a creationist lying repeatedly. ]

You seem to appreciate honesty greatly.. and are put off by lies.. I agree, we are on the same page there.. With an American college system literally controlled by hard leftist ideologues that have a negative agenda..

WHOM most all agree with YOU... on evolution..

One wonders how much your hate of lies and love of truth is genuine.. I have also noticed you are wroth to engage Alamo-girl and Betty Boop whom can support "current scientific reality's"(which are scientists) USE OF 2ND REALITY to support a skewed version of "truth"..

If I said anything in error it was not on purpose.. can you say the same.. I will stand down on this, if I see you loving truth, I have not noticed that yet.. Course I have not read everything here.. Don't need to.. I have those I trust, AND those that have ten poles marks all over them.. disease maybe, maybe mental..

100 posted on 12/14/2005 5:44:47 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe; Dimensio; betty boop
Thank you so much for the ping to your engaging post!

It is troubling to me that the word “lie” is gratuitously thrown around on these threads. The word “lie” means there was an intent to deceive – and who can speak to what another is thinking? It is an incendiary word.

More appropriate words could be used, such as “the statement was a misrepresentation” or “it was false, incorrect, or incomplete”. None of these speak to intent. Even the word “misleading” doesn’t necessarily go to intent.

Of course, I love Truth. I love God Who is Truth.

Then again, not everyone can handle Truth.

Moreover, when some people speak of “truth” they speak conditionally – a “truth” based on a presumptive worldview or personal value of types of knowledge. Some for instance may dismiss any “truth” which is not obtained through observation or experiment.

The most tragic, IMHO, condition to “truth” is a contrived subset of reality – a hermetically sealed “second reality” which precludes everything else.

Moreover, the observer is himself part of the reality he seeks to describe, thus his "truth" is always relative. There is only one source for absolute, objective Truth.

144 posted on 12/14/2005 9:26:25 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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