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After Williams, a new dilemma for governor - Next: Gravely ill and blind man, 75, scheduled to die
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 12/14/5 | Jim Doyle

Posted on 12/14/2005 7:41:04 AM PST by SmithL

Clarence Ray Allen, the next inmate scheduled to die in San Quentin State Prison's execution chamber, may pose a quandary as vexing for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger as Stanley Tookie Williams.

Allen, who has spent more than a quarter-century on Death Row, is slated to die by lethal injection Jan. 17. He would be the oldest and most infirm prisoner executed in the United States since the death penalty was restored in 1977, according to his lawyers.

Allen, who turns 76 on Jan. 16, uses a wheelchair. An advanced case of diabetes has left him legally blind. He suffered a heart attack Sept. 2.

His lawyers filed a 33-page petition for clemency Tuesday with the governor's office in Sacramento.

"He's the oldest inmate on California's Death Row. ... He's enfeebled," Michael Satris, one of Allen's lawyers, said in an interview. "No prisoner in the state of California has ever been executed at that age.

"It's almost unprecedented worldwide," Satris said. "There hasn't been an execution in this country for more than 50 years of someone as old as Ray Allen."

Several condemned inmates at San Quentin are in their 70s, and more than two dozen are in their 60s.

The state says Allen's deteriorating health is irrelevant.

"He was tried, convicted and sentenced to death, and the law requires that his sentence be carried out regardless of his age or health,"

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: clarenceallen; clarencerayallen; deathpenalty; deathrow; fakeindian; hastalavista; next
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To: TCats

It reminds me of the old joke about the kid who murders his parents and then asks the judge for mercy because he's an orphan.


41 posted on 12/14/2005 8:05:53 AM PST by karnage
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To: SoFloFreeper

It's perfect liberal logic: keep a murderous scumbag alive for an extra 2+ decades, however long it takes until he becomes sick or enfeebled, then say it's too late to allow justice to be served........ wait 'till the Mumia-scum starts claiming he's ill after being on death row for 20+ years............


42 posted on 12/14/2005 8:07:39 AM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: SmithL

As a California taxpayer, I want this cold blooded killer executed. If it had been done 25 years ago, when he first landed on death row we could have saved hundreds of thousands of dollard on appeals, and upkeep.


43 posted on 12/14/2005 8:11:01 AM PST by passionfruit
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To: SmithL

What does his condition have to do with anything?


44 posted on 12/14/2005 8:12:44 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: SmithL

Gee whiz. Biased title, much?


45 posted on 12/14/2005 8:14:41 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: SmithL

So, what's the quandry?


46 posted on 12/14/2005 8:15:06 AM PST by mak5
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To: passionfruit
Indeed. My sympathies for you're being a California taxpayer. I suggest ya'll execute him NOW before his health deteriorates further :-)
47 posted on 12/14/2005 8:15:51 AM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (In all things give thanks, for this is the will of God for you in Christ Jesus.)
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To: E Rocc
Maybe he can be awarded a "rest in peace prize".

I remember reading in the late 70s about the Crips and how they had become more than an LA gang. It seems that they had begun to deal in drugs big time and there reach extended to the Plains States and possibley even further east!

There is no doubt that his legacy is far reaching and maybe his books and preaching to kids had some effect but his victims cried for justice and it was meted out on Tuesday!

48 posted on 12/14/2005 8:15:53 AM PST by Young Werther
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To: passionfruit

Someone please alert the Good Reverend so he can mark his calendar, and will Joan Baez be available as well?


49 posted on 12/14/2005 8:16:05 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: gridlock

LOL!


50 posted on 12/14/2005 8:16:19 AM PST by Tax-chick ("You don't HAVE to be a fat pervert to speak out about eating too much and lack of morals." ~ LG)
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To: pgyanke
He's too sick to die!

I've felt like that a few times after a particularly hearty party.

51 posted on 12/14/2005 8:17:43 AM PST by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: concerned about politics
"Why would they be concerned about infections when the object is to eliminate the guy anyway?"

The alcohol is rubbed not so much for disinfecting as it is for making the veins rise to the surface and make them better visible.

52 posted on 12/14/2005 8:19:01 AM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: One Proud Dad
...save on the medical bills we would have to pay to keep him alive...

Why do we give health care to people on death row, anyway? It seems to be counter-productive, to me.
53 posted on 12/14/2005 8:21:07 AM PST by redtetrahedron (John 6:53)
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To: SmithL

The libnuts are constantly screaming about equality...so what's the big deal? Fry him too! Why would his illnesses have anything to do with his scheduled LAWFUL execution?

This manufactured garbage from the leftwing anti-death penalty freaks makes as much sense as cleaning Tookie's arm with an alcohol prep prior to starting his IV. We just wouldn't want him get an infection, would we?

LOL.


54 posted on 12/14/2005 8:21:22 AM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: SmithL

They should have executed him 25 years ago and he wouldn't be sick and frail today!


55 posted on 12/14/2005 8:23:16 AM PST by dalereed
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To: concerned about politics; KC_Conspirator; SmithL
I understand he considers himself a Choctaw Indian. The Department of Corrections considers him white. I have no idea what the Choctaw Nation considers him.
56 posted on 12/14/2005 8:26:34 AM PST by NathanR (Apri moi, le deluge.)
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To: karnage

"It reminds me of the old joke about the kid who murders his parents and then asks the judge for mercy because he's an orphan."

That's no joke. That happened in the Menendez brothers case. It was Leslie Abramson's argument in the penalty phase.


57 posted on 12/14/2005 8:28:23 AM PST by passionfruit
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To: SmithL

If it can be confirmed that he is suffering, let him live.


58 posted on 12/14/2005 8:29:50 AM PST by John Semmens
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To: Tax-chick
Delay the execution for almost 30 years, and then claim the person shouldn't be executed because he's old now.

LMAO! You nailed it. How about we help 'em out and stop the aging process?

59 posted on 12/14/2005 8:30:51 AM PST by anonymous_user (I'm going to wish you a Merry Christmas, but I'm not forcing you to have one.)
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To: SmithL

Is this the libs new tactic? Delay and stall till a Death Row inmate is old and feeble, and thus not eligible to be executed?


60 posted on 12/14/2005 8:31:31 AM PST by Rummyfan
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