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After Williams, a new dilemma for governor - Next: Gravely ill and blind man, 75, scheduled to die
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 12/14/5 | Jim Doyle

Posted on 12/14/2005 7:41:04 AM PST by SmithL

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To: SmithL

He was clearly capable of ordering murders from his cell. So why did they let him continue to stay in a cell for a quarter of a century?


21 posted on 12/14/2005 7:47:21 AM PST by horse_doc
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To: SmithL

Stupid liberal tricks. Delay the execution for almost 30 years, and then claim the person shouldn't be executed because he's old now. Sorry, not falling for it.


22 posted on 12/14/2005 7:48:32 AM PST by Tax-chick ("You don't HAVE to be a fat pervert to speak out about eating too much and lack of morals." ~ LG)
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To: SmithL

Allen arranged to have 4 witnesses to his original crime killed. Three of the murders he arranged from prison.

This guy is the Poster Child for the Death Penalty.


23 posted on 12/14/2005 7:48:50 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: mnehrling

Four people were massacred last night in a Boston Rap studio. Does Tookie have an alibi?


24 posted on 12/14/2005 7:48:59 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: SmithL

I guess the names and stories of those he murdered are not worth mentioning. After all, it was a long time ago, so F 'em.


25 posted on 12/14/2005 7:49:39 AM PST by Steely Tom
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Maybe if it didn't take twenty five years for this case to move through the system, Arnie wouldn't be executing an old man.


26 posted on 12/14/2005 7:50:01 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: SmithL
Well, he wouldn't have to be executed as an ill and blind man if California had done its job before.

What offends me most is the dumb "reasons" these people have for opposition to the death penalty in any given case.

27 posted on 12/14/2005 7:50:10 AM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: mnehrling; All
I forgot who said it, but the paraphrase is:

We don't have the death penalty to deter crime, we have the death penalty to deter this person from committing another crime.

I, too, think it works...
28 posted on 12/14/2005 7:51:25 AM PST by econjack
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To: Tax-chick
The poor fella is an orphan! (His parents having died from old age some time ago...) Cut him a break!
29 posted on 12/14/2005 7:51:48 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: SmithL

The only thing unfair about his upcoming execution is the delay in the administration of justice. Death penalty sentences should carry an obligation by the state to carry out the sentence as soon as possible.


30 posted on 12/14/2005 7:52:44 AM PST by thoughtomator (What'ya mean you formatted the cat!?)
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To: SmithL

He's a white guy. Nobody cares.


31 posted on 12/14/2005 7:53:05 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: SmithL
FINALLY at paragraphs 10 -12 we get:
In reviewing the case earlier this year, the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco found no doubt that Allen was guilty of commissioning three murders in Fresno from his prison cell in 1980 while serving a life term for ordering another murder.

The court wrote that although Allen's trial counsel failed to represent him adequately, evidence of his guilt was "overwhelming." The panel concluded that the crimes warranted "the harshest penalty" under the law.

Allen, who ran a security company in Fresno, was linked by prosecutors to a series of armed robberies in the Central Valley. He was sentenced to life in prison for ordering the murder in 1974 of his son's girlfriend. From behind bars at Folsom Prison, prosecutors said, he masterminded the murders in 1980 of three witnesses from his previous trial and conspired to kill four other witnesses.

So this turd should be spared just because he happened to age on Death Row? Please.

And what a shamelessly biased Chronic article.

32 posted on 12/14/2005 7:53:55 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: KC_Conspirator
I am going to predict something; there will be no liberal protest because this guy is white.

But he has a band around his head. He could be American Indian. If he's not, his death will be celebrated by the left. They'll just see it as a simple house cleaning.
It's odd how the left values a life based on a "potential vote".

33 posted on 12/14/2005 7:54:01 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: SmithL

"Gravely ill and blind man"

He won't see that coming...


34 posted on 12/14/2005 7:56:04 AM PST by YouPosting2Me
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To: SmithL

I can guarantee Schwarzenegger is going to let this one live. The first decision made him look tough, this one will make him look compassionate. He factored this one in when he made the earlier decision.


35 posted on 12/14/2005 7:56:49 AM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: YouPosting2Me
"Gravely ill and blind man"

He won't see that coming...

My husband was wondering if they still swap the criminals arm with alcohol before injecting the needle. Why would they be concerned about infections when the object is to eliminate the guy anyway?

36 posted on 12/14/2005 7:59:47 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

So he spikes the black prisoner and spares the white prisoner? I don't see that happening.


37 posted on 12/14/2005 8:00:46 AM PST by Caveman Lawyer (Cluckin' defiance)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I would think Michael Schiavo and George Felos would show up to starve him into euphoria...

Just imagine how "peaceful" and "beautiful" he could become.

38 posted on 12/14/2005 8:02:45 AM PST by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: SmithL
"He was tried, convicted and sentenced to death, and the law requires that his sentence be carried out regardless of his age or health,"

Wait. Someone in the state of California's government said that? There are Freepers everywhere!!!

39 posted on 12/14/2005 8:04:40 AM PST by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
I can guarantee Schwarzenegger is going to let this one live.

He could always show his compassion by starving the guy to death. That way the guy will appear more beautiful, die peacefully, die with dignity, and go out in a euphoric state.
Yep. The kindest thing to do is starve the guy to death.

40 posted on 12/14/2005 8:04:45 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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