[Williams]

No, you are mistaken. I made a point to say that science considers the inside of a black hole to be unknowable. You are taking on faith that science is "awaiting further discoveries." Science in fact has stated that the precise location of a quantum particle, the "time" before the big bang, and the "inside" of a black hole are IMPOSSIBLE to discern. Ever. And this is the result of nature's design. The definition of a black hole is that no information can ever escape it or be knowable in any way. Period. It's too lengthy a topic to go on about here, but that is the scientific viewpoint.

No, I don't believe in Zeus. But why do you assume that man's knowledge of God cannot progress, as has our knowledge of science? IF you learn more about science and religion, you will find they both involve an effort to understand the universe's mysteries.

[BagelFace]

Very true. I agree, however, with those here who have pointed out that the inexorably accumultating evidence for evolution is remarkable (and portentious). hat "evolving" evidence do you have for the other side of the debate? The usual response deals with faith. Faith is fine, but could you have shaken the Greek's faith in Zeus? No. Zeus sort of evolved out, and it was primarily due to what I mentioned above. I think Right Wing Professor and Guitarman and narby and Physicist have done better than I at explaining this, however. I am a scientist also, but they are more grounded in TTOE than I (I kept cutting classes in high school and now I regret it). Best wishes, BF.

[Elsie]

The definition of a black hole is that no information can ever escape it or be knowable in any way.

And Scientists say these these things DO exist, and somehow they came from what is called the Big Bang, which, by definition, would be the largest 'black hole' ever, yet, stuff DID come out of this BH, even though, by definition it can't.....

OH!! I'm SO confused!!