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Leave the Nukes, Take Out the Mullahs
The American Thinker ^ | 12-13-2005 | Herbert E. Meyer

Posted on 12/13/2005 10:24:02 AM PST by Reagan Man

To think clearly about how best to remove the looming threat of a nuclear-armed Iran, just keep in mind the National Rifle Association’s much maligned – but perfectly sensible – old slogan: Guns don’t kill people. People kill people.

It’s the same with nuclear weapons. The threat isn’t from the warhead, but from the individual who controls it. For example, right now several countries whose governments aren’t always friendly to the US – China, Russia, France – each have enough nuclear warheads, and the means to deliver them, to obliterate our country. But we don’t lose one minute’s sleep over this prospect because, although the leaders of these countries are surly, petulant, sometimes vicious and often anti-American – they are also sane. There isn’t the slightest chance that any of these leaders actually will press the nuclear button and launch Armageddon.

The president of Iran, on the other hand, is nuts. (The tip-off came a while back when, as mayor of Teheran, Ahmadi-Neshad Amadinejad ordered separate elevators for men and women. His insanity became more obvious – and more serious – when he demanded last month that Israel be “wiped off the map,” and then “clarified” this call to genocide by insisting that the Holocaust never happened, and adding that he had only meant to suggest that Israel be re-located somewhere in Western Europe.) Moreover, it’s clear that at least several of the mullahs who rigged the election that brought Amadinejad to power earlier this year are also dangerous fanatics. Allowing Amadinejad and these mullahs to get their hands on nuclear weapons is a risk the civilized world simply cannot take. It would be like allowing a bunch of escaped lunatics to roam the halls of your childrens’ school, armed with rifles, in hopes that maybe they really aren’t as crazy as they seem to be and won’t, after all, start firing into the cafeteria.

With this weekend’s report in The Times of London that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has ordered his country’s armed forces to be ready by the end of March for a possible strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities, the technical complexities of such a strike are starting to get attention. James Lewis’ recent analysis in The American Thinker provides a superb overview of just how difficult such a strike would be to execute.

A Better Option

But if the problem is the individual rather than the weapon, why not expand our thinking a bit? More precisely, why not consider whether it might make more sense to defuse the Iranian threat by leaving the nukes, but removing Amadinejad and the mullahs from power? In other words, perhaps the US – and even some of our European so-called allies – could get cracking and start organizing, or at least supporting, a coup d’etat or a revolution.

Despite what you may have read in spy novels or seen at the movies, pulling off a coup or a revolution is a very hard, very risky thing to do. (A coup d’etat means the government is overthrown from within, for instance by a group of military officers or a group of politicians who have the military’s support. In a revolution, the government is overthrown from the outside, by the people, as happened recently in Georgia and Ukraine.) All sorts of things go wrong: the coup leaders lose their nerve, or the government uncovers their plot before it’s launched, or the revolution ends in disaster when the government orders the military to fire into the crowds and hundreds or even thousands are killed in the streets.

On the other hand, sometimes everything goes right and a coup d’etat brings to power a new leader who, however imperfect, is better than the one he replaced. For example,Pakistan’s Pervez Musharraf, who seized power in October 1999, is a vast improvement over the man he pushed aside, Mohhamed Fafiq Tarar. Moreover, in just the last few years the percentage of revolutions that succeed has started to rise. (To learn why, read A Revolutionary Change.) Georgia and Ukraine are the two best-known examples, and the turmoil now in the streets of Lebanon looks very much like a revolution; it may well succeed in breaking that country free of Syria’s grip.

Without access to secret intelligence from inside the government in Teheran – for the sake of this discussion, let’s just assume the CIA has some – we cannot really judge how good may be the prospects for a coup. As a general rule, in all dictatorships there are factions, and factions within factions, and the internal struggle for power among the top three dozen leaders never stops. And the people who rise to power in dictatorships don’t play nicely in the sandbox; they tend to kill each other from time to time. If the jockeying for power inside the Teheran government right now isn’t vicious, that would be unusual. So it’s reasonable to assume that a coup d’etat that would replace Amadinejad and some of the mullahs with people who are less dangerous is, at least, possible.

Here Comes the Revolution

What is clear is that the prospects for a genuine people’s revolution in Iran are excellent. Indeed, if ever there was a country primed for revolution, this is it. As Michael Ledeen has reported in a brilliant series of essays for National Review Online, Iran today is in a classic pre-revolutionary state. Iran’s population is Muslim, but not Arab, and its people are weary of the fundamentalist regime that overthrew the Shah in 1979 and has held power ever since by turning that country into the kind of police state the Shah himself never came close to building. Despite its oil revenues, Iran’s economy is a mess. And the government’s recent responses to several devastating earthquakes have been inept.

Today, by every credible measure the Iranian population hates its government. And within the population, nowhere is this hatred of the government greater than among the young people – and fully 70 percent of Iran’s population is under the age of 30. These young people have been risking their lives by demonstrating against the regime – week, after week, after week – for at least two years. Moreover, the kids never miss an opportunity to make clear their desire for friendly relations with – of all countries—the United States.

Given the extreme nature of the Iranian nuclear threat – and given the widespread reluctance among so many of our allies to use military force, even to save their own lives – working together to organize or at least support a coup or a revolution in Iran may be the one thing everyone can agree is worth doing. The very nature of this sort of endeavor – making contact with top-echelon insiders, providing student and worker groups with communications equipment, the wherewithal to produce posters, newspapers and the like, and of course enough money to keep the pot boiling – means that it’s done in secret, by intelligence services. This means our nervous allies – some of whom have first-rate intelligence services – can help quietly, without paying the political price of being seen to be working with the Americans and, from their viewpoint even worse, with the Israelis.

…Or Maybe a Coup

The obviously-leaked report that Ariel Sharon has given orders for the Israeli military to prepare for a strike on Iran will give a huge push forward to the idea of a coup or a revolution. For one thing, it will concentrate minds in Teheran itself. That country’s military leaders – unlike its political leaders – aren’t nuts. The last thing they want is an Israeli, or an Israeli-American, air strike on their weapons plants. If some of the top military people weren’t thinking of a coup before word of Sharon’s orders was leaked, they are now. Moreover, among Iran’s political leaders are at least a few men who aren’t crazy. They know that a military strike – even if it fails to completely destroy Iran’s nuclear plants – will be a disaster for that country. And at least a few of them will now be pondering the thought that the Israelis have shown a real talent for “targeted assassinations” – that if the Mossad doesn’t know today where they live and what cars they drive, it soon will. (If you were an Iranian politician, how willing would you be right now to sit next to Amadinejad at some outdoor ceremony – or accept his offer of a lift back to the office?)

Of course, there’s no way to predict whether a coup or a revolution in Iran would bring to power leaders who would dismantle that country’s nuclear capabilities. It may well be that whatever government comes to power will continue the present course and – more likely sooner rather than later – turn Iran into a nuclear power. That will be worrisome, to say the least – but not nearly as terrifyingly dangerous as having these weapons in the hands of crazy people.

As events in Iran unfold during the coming weeks, never forget the first rule of projecting the future of dictatorships: keep your eye on the guys with the guns. At the end of the day, it’s the military leaders – not the politicians – who decide what happens. If the military throws its support to the leader of a prospective coup, that coup usually succeeds. And if a revolution starts to build and the military leaders refuse the dictator’s orders to fire into the crowd, that revolution usually succeeds. Given the alternative of a massive attack by Israel, with or without help from the US Air Force, a coup or a revolution may not strike at least a few of Iran’s political and military leaders as such a bad thing.

Which is why that leaked story in The Times of London is so very interesting. It may mean the ball has already started to roll….


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: americans4afreeiran; azadi; deadmullahsstink; iran; iranazadi; irannukes

1 posted on 12/13/2005 10:24:04 AM PST by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
It may mean the ball has already started to roll….

It may mean Cathrine Zeta-Jones is my wife. Castro is about fall, too.

2 posted on 12/13/2005 10:30:30 AM PST by oyez (Appeasement is death!)
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To: Reagan Man

Read My Lips: Nuclear non-proliferation means nuclear non-proliferation. We (the U.S. and Israel) need to take out the insane mulla and his nukes yesterday.


3 posted on 12/13/2005 10:35:12 AM PST by cloud8
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To: Reagan Man

The nice part is that Iran has officially asked for it. Once you say you want to get nukes to destroy another country, it becomes more difficult (albeit not impossible) for the peace movement to persuade people that it was an "illegal intervention."


4 posted on 12/13/2005 10:37:09 AM PST by Our man in washington
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To: oyez

last time I checked she (Catherine Zeta-Jones) was still married. I understand that Maureen Dowd is available though.....:) BTW, where's the pic, you know the rules, and has anyone ever wondered why she doesn't now go by Catherine Zeta-Douglas??????


5 posted on 12/13/2005 10:37:17 AM PST by michaelbfree
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To: Reagan Man

Very interesting post.


6 posted on 12/13/2005 10:38:16 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Reagan Man

what happened to the slowly gathering studen uprisings at the end of our kicking Iraq's ass. ???


We forget about them? We should have covertly funded them - and if we didnt we should now.


7 posted on 12/13/2005 10:39:36 AM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help...)
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To: Our man in washington

'The nice part is that Iran has officially asked for it. Once you say you want to get nukes to destroy another country, it becomes more difficult (albeit not impossible) for the peace movement to persuade people that it was an "illegal intervention."'

Perhaps you missed it. IAEA head El Baradei was given the Nobel Peace prize for his work. He has officially stopped the nuclear threat from Iran and demanded that the US adopt a policy of not attacking Iran .......if they develop nuclear weapons. So we don't have a thing to worry about. After all, El Baradei is a MUSLIM and we know that muslims are all peacefull and trustworthy.



8 posted on 12/13/2005 10:45:04 AM PST by RouxStir (Peaceful Muslim?.....The Ultimate Oxymoron.)
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To: Reagan Man

> ... provides a superb overview of just how difficult
> such a strike would be to execute.

Since the mulletheads don't yet have actual warheads, we
don't need to attack the nuke plants themselves. We just
need to take down the infrastructure that delivers power
to the sites, and keep it down. This can be done with
minimal collateral damage.

Which is not to say that a decap strike on the longbeards
is a bad idea ...


9 posted on 12/13/2005 10:48:50 AM PST by Boundless
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To: RouxStir
Leave the Nukes, Take Out the Mullahs

OK. Just be thorough. All the Mullahs from Morocco to Indonesia. And, Mecca for good measure.

10 posted on 12/13/2005 10:50:57 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: Reagan Man

"The threat isn’t from the warhead, but from the individual who controls it."
"make more sense to defuse the Iranian threat by leaving the nukes, but removing Amadinejad and the mullahs from power"
" working together to organize or at least support a coup or a revolution in Iran may be the one thing everyone can agree is worth doing."

Yes! People are finally catching on.

This is what DoctorZin, Michael Ledeen, Ken Timmerman, and many others have been saying for years.


11 posted on 12/13/2005 10:51:19 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Reagan Man
.....make more sense to defuse the Iranian threat by leaving the nukes, but removing Amadinejad and the mullahs from power?....We would hope that this would apply to all mullas everywhere.

Not only will removing the mullas "defuse" the situation, it is my contention that it will also destroy islam as we know it. Islam requires murdering lunitics in charge to keep the "flock" together IMO. If the threat of murder and terror were removed from islam, a lot of people who call themselves mohammadians would leave, esp. women. Islam is like a gang...once you are in, the only way you can get out is feet first as long as the mullas are in charge.

12 posted on 12/13/2005 10:53:35 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Islam, liberalism and abortions are terminal..)
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To: LibreOuMort; nuconvert; F14 Pilot

ping


13 posted on 12/13/2005 10:55:22 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || To Libs: You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: Reagan Man

BTW - Vote for DoctorZin's "Regime Change Iran" here....

http://weblogawards.org/2005/12/best_middle_east_or_africa_blo.php


14 posted on 12/13/2005 10:56:51 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

"All the Mullahs"....but they will keep coming back like flies to sh*t. You gotta remove the pile of feces that they lay their maggot eggs in.


15 posted on 12/13/2005 10:57:35 AM PST by RouxStir (Peaceful Muslim?.....The Ultimate Oxymoron.)
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To: Reagan Man

I was just talking to my friends about this yesterday...

That it'd be easier to eliminate the government of Iran than it would be to find and destroy all their nuclear facilities.

And without the government and military top brass, who'll give the orders to attack anyone?


16 posted on 12/13/2005 11:11:28 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: Reagan Man
It may mean the ball has already started to roll….

Some sort of ball is rolling but who knows exactly who has tossed it or where it is headed.

These author is correct in assuming that the US and Israel are intentionally putting this info out in order to lay the ground work for some sort of operation. Maybe an Israeli strike with covert US help. Perhaps a large scale US air offensive. Maybe something covert as the author suggests. Time will tell.

I believe the President has learned his lesson. Whatever happens will happen suddenly without months of warning for the Mullahs, UN, Europeans, 'rats, and press to muck things up.

President Bush (and Israel) will not let us down regarding the Iranian nuke threat.

17 posted on 12/13/2005 11:18:51 AM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: Reagan Man

Any muslim with a nuke is not a good idea.


18 posted on 12/13/2005 12:26:07 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Reagan Man

later


19 posted on 12/13/2005 12:29:45 PM PST by truth_seeker
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