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Spielberg's Munich Massacre
The Jewish Press ^ | 12/7/2005 | Jason Maoz

Posted on 12/13/2005 6:53:28 AM PST by Witch-king of Angmar

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To: Witch-king of Angmar

Speilberg's next movie is about Tookie Williams putting 4 terminally ill people out of their misery.


61 posted on 12/13/2005 8:43:06 AM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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To: MillerCreek
It's one thing for an American to have different political views and declare that he or she hates Bush. I have plenty of family members, friends, and co-workers who say that. They still love their country.

It's entirely another thing to state your hatred, like Kushner, for America. If you do that, you are my enemy. Kushner, Stone, Moore and a swarm of other America haters are my enemies.

62 posted on 12/13/2005 8:43:29 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: wtc911

It was an accident. And I have no doubt that our people killed a few innocent civilians fighting the "cold" war. Should we not have fought that one? Remember, there was no declared war going on.


63 posted on 12/13/2005 8:45:59 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: driftless
It was an accident.

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No, an accident is when you slip on ice. This was a mis-calculation that resulted in a murder.

64 posted on 12/13/2005 8:47:58 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Thanks, buddy.


65 posted on 12/13/2005 8:49:25 AM PST by wideawake
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To: BenLurkin
Spielberg has jumped the shark.

Good one! :)

66 posted on 12/13/2005 8:53:31 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: Rummyfan
Also, I would recommend Simon Reeve's excellent One Day in September: The Full Story of the 1972 Munich Olympics Massacre and the Israeli Revenge Operation "Wrath of God".

Reeve shows that the Israeli revenge operations were undertaken out of disgust after it became clear that the Europeans, particularly the West Germans, were not interested in punishing the surviving Palestinian terrorists and their "managers," such as the so-called Red Prince, Ali Hassan Salameh. It's really good read and gets to the root of the matter without coddling Arafat, his Fatah movement, and the Palestinian terrorists operating in Europe during the 1970s.

67 posted on 12/13/2005 8:58:52 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: BenLurkin
Spielberg has jumped the shark.

He already jumped it with AI.

68 posted on 12/13/2005 9:08:28 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: RedStateRocker; Witch-king of Angmar
<< But then I'm the most Zionist Irish boy I know of:-) >>

Hah?

I thought that was me!

Brian(Boru-stein of the Bog of) Allen!

69 posted on 12/13/2005 9:17:22 AM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant is it to believe our power-lusting career political lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: highball; avital2
I don't know whether this guy has seen it or not but it's possible. The movie has been previewed. A couple reviews are already out. Medved has seen it but not yet formally reviewed it. However, he did comment briefly on it.
70 posted on 12/13/2005 9:19:03 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: wtc911
I applaud the Israelis for taking the action they did but we really can't (andshouldn't) view the innocent death as anything other than an avoidable tragedy.

In the long run, such tragedies are not avoidable. Sooner or later something goes wrong and innocent people die, whether you're talking about hunting down terrorists, testing new airplanes, or just driving through an intersection enough times to be the unlucky bastard who's there when someone runs a red light.

Whenever military action is undertaken, no matter how justified, it is all but a mathematical certainty that innocent people will die. All we can do at that point is:

a) Make sure we are justified in taking military action;

b) Do whatever we can to prevent/minimize the death of innocents without unduly jeopardizing the mission;

c) Accept whatever deaths of innocents do occur as the tragic cost of doing business;

d) Don't look back.

Anything else is overthinking, second-guessing, or emotional/political grandstanding.

71 posted on 12/13/2005 9:51:34 AM PST by Zhangliqun (Hating Bush does not count as a strategy for defeating Islamic terrorism.)
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To: trisham; dfwgator

You both made very good points.


72 posted on 12/13/2005 9:52:47 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: wtc911
No, an accident is when you slip on ice. This was a mis-calculation that resulted in a murder.

How is a miscalculation not an accident?

73 posted on 12/13/2005 9:54:34 AM PST by Zhangliqun (Hating Bush does not count as a strategy for defeating Islamic terrorism.)
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To: BenLurkin

But I will always be grateful to Spielberg for Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers, and along with Tom Hanks, finally giving us the WWII Museum. At least he has done some good things.


74 posted on 12/13/2005 9:55:09 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Zhangliqun
a) Make sure we are justified in taking military action; b) Do whatever we can to prevent/minimize the death of innocents without unduly jeopardizing the mission; c) Accept whatever deaths of innocents do occur as the tragic cost of doing business; d) Don't look back. Anything else is overthinking, second-guessing, or emotional/political grandstanding.

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This was not a military action it was a (supposedly) well-researched, planned hit that did not have to be made at that moment. And, it was avoidable.

75 posted on 12/13/2005 9:56:10 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: Witch-king of Angmar
Funny, Spielberg didn't feel the need to portray the Nazis as "individuals" with "families" in Schindler and Ryan. Why is it that whenever Hollywood portrays any event near the present time they have to revert to reflexive leftist doctrine, even to the point of an American Jew betraying the story of Israeli Jews fighting the terrorists of Munich??-
76 posted on 12/13/2005 10:02:14 AM PST by colorado tanker (I can't comment on things that might come before the Court, but I can tell you my Pinochle strategy)
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To: veronica

Spielberg and the rest of Hollyweird is crying about empty theatres and reduced dvd sales. What do they expect when they try to put this crap over on us.

They better find some patriotic actors and start making movies, pointing their fingers at the actual bad guys. I am sooo tired of this relatavistic crapola.


77 posted on 12/13/2005 10:03:06 AM PST by rock58seg (It's time for Islam to actually become a religion of peace or a religion of the past.)
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To: Witch-king of Angmar

I am still pissed off that Spielberg ruined War of the Worlds.


78 posted on 12/13/2005 10:03:55 AM PST by DM1
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To: wtc911
This was not a military action it was a (supposedly) well-researched, planned hit that did not have to be made at that moment. And, it was avoidable.

A lot of accidents are avoidable. That doesn't meant they're not accidents.

So I don't understand your point. Are you then saying that the Israelis deliberately spent all this research and planning on making SURE they killed the WRONG MAN?

Special Operations stuff like this counts very much as military in my book.

79 posted on 12/13/2005 10:03:58 AM PST by Zhangliqun (Hating Bush does not count as a strategy for defeating Islamic terrorism.)
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To: Zhangliqun
How is a miscalculation not an accident?

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Get real.

Do you even know the sequence of events in Lillihammer? Mossad used local amateurs to look for, identify and follow Salemeh. They saw someone who looked like him and immediately called in the hit team from Paris. No effort was made to insure that the local amateurs had the right guy. The wrong guy was shot dead while walking with his pregnant wife within a day. That was not an accident. It was a rush-to-vengeance and absolutely avoidable.

80 posted on 12/13/2005 10:08:07 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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