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To: nickcarraway

This is only surprising to those that condem Islam as 'evil' and think all muslims are terrorists and support terrorists.

Unfortunately, there are more than a few such folks here on FR.


10 posted on 12/12/2005 7:57:48 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/french_riots.htm)
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To: traviskicks

Correct. There's nothing in it for those guarding the churches, unless one thinks all of "those people" are just the same. All Muslims aren't terrorists--sorry, fanatics, but they're not.


13 posted on 12/12/2005 8:04:37 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (An agnostic who never, ever says "Happy Holidays")
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To: traviskicks
"This is only surprising to those that condem Islam as 'evil' and think all muslims are terrorists and support terrorists. Unfortunately, there are more than a few such folks here on FR."

I recently started a thread on the culture wars. There were 5 serious replies, and nearly a hundred snide comments about gay sexual techniques.

It's knee-jerk, it's ridiculous, but most importantly it distracts from our goals. Iraq is our greatest Mideast ally. We bleed and die for them, and now they do it for us. It is not helpful to joke about goat sex everytime their religion is mentioned.

Those mocking a billion Islamic worshipers will offer no suggestions beyond "nuke them all". Why not gas them then? Why are nukes OK, but not organized genocide? If we are going to do a job - even an evil job - let us do it right.

19 posted on 12/12/2005 8:21:09 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: traviskicks
"This is only surprising to those that condem Islam as 'evil' and think all muslims are terrorists and support terrorists."

Oh? Which Muslims are those who believe that all of the "Palestinians" (assorted former Jordanians, Egyptians, Syrians,...) should stop their "Jihad" and leave Israel now? And at least three ex-Muslim, former terrorists make some very good arguments that the problem comes from the religion and its Quran.

Three ex-terrorists speak in Princeton: Are Princeton’s Jewish Youth the new judenrat? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1538173/posts
20 posted on 12/12/2005 8:22:47 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: traviskicks

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22 posted on 12/12/2005 8:27:08 PM PST by RouxStir (Peaceful Muslim?.....The Ultimate Oxymoron.)
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To: traviskicks; FrPR
This is only surprising to those that condemn Islam as 'evil' and think all muslims are terrorists and support terrorists.

This is the question serious WESTERN-type thinkers grapple with: there are many good people who are Muslims. Yet, when they attend their local mosque or give to Muslim 'Charities', they directly support those on violent jihad.

The general consensus of Islam is clear: that one Muslim must support the jihad of another, even if differing in vision from his own. Witness the aid given the 9/11 highjackers as they moved about the country. They received money, shelter, transportation, and just plain cover from their co-religionists.

Ominously, many of the suras in Q'uran encourage Muslims by instructing them that there is no need to tell an infidel the truth, there is no reason to keep one's word with an infidel, there is no need to keep a treaty with an infidel nation, and that if dissimulation is necessary to gain advantage over the infidels while Muslims are temporarily in a weaker position, that is a valid course of action.

Q'uran is available in English, and other Western languages. Read it. Also read of the world-wide epidemic of gang-rape by young Muslim men in countries and regions as far apart as Norway, Kosovo, and Australia. Have you heard of any Muslim cleric issuing a fatwah against this heinous practice?

(a)all muslims are terrorists

(b)and all muslims support terrorists.

Not many on this site believe (a).
There's damn good evidence for (b). A rational man need only ask, "How much?" We are at war with militant Islam. Many Muslims, just as sensible as the next guy, are not actively in it. Since they have been of scant help to us in reforming their terrorist bretheren, it is reasonable to say they are not in it just yet. If they follow Q'uran, they will be, and cannot be on our side.

31 posted on 12/12/2005 11:02:41 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (There is no central authority in Islam, So Islam is not what Muslims say. It is what they do.)
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