Posted on 12/12/2005 2:47:37 PM PST by kronos77
Is that why Christian education is now available in all Russian schools and the military?
Putin: "Hey - we still got weapons to sell! Today only, 10% off!"
Agreed.
At first I thought it was just Bush who was naive, but since I see the people in the administration around Bush pretty much with the same line, I figure they can't all be uniformed and naive; so I suspect there is an agenda here about Islam that we won't be privy to.
Pres.Bush did the right thing in Afghanistan and Iraq and I support him in those efforts.
Bush just can't seem to name the enemy. It is the religion itself-Islam. - Tom
I don't think its naive, on either side. It's the stupidity of the West trying to play the islamics off on each other while in truth, the Islamics take the patronage and play the West off on each other. Who's the wiser? Definitly not the Christian world, sadly.
MOSCOW, December 12 (RIA Novosti) - The head of the Russian Orthodox Church and the Iranian parliamentary speaker met in Moscow Monday to discuss interfaith dialogue.
Patriarch Alexy II and Islamic Consultative Assembly Chair Gholam-Ali Haddad-adel praised the work of the joint Russian-Iranian commission for Islamic-Orthodox dialogue. Alexy II said it was "an exemplar of mutually beneficial cooperation" proving that "together, we can counter attempts to impose secular values all over."
"I believe Orthodox Christians and Muslims are united in their desire to prevent the construction of a unipolar world order, which would enable the imposition of certain political and cultural patterns across the globe," the Russian patriarch said.
ping!
Russia has a long history of supporting Islamic states to make trouble for the U.S. and Britain. At the same time, they have a long history of suppressing Muslim states along their own borders.
In this regard, Russia and France have very similar foreign policies and are closely allied on the Security Council. They both loved Saddam and his oil.
It is crap like that that make me crazy. I thought Alexey had better sense. Just Damn.
Everybody just loves those camel humpers! Such lovely souls. Vlad is just being a kind gentle soul. Hey we love you, look buddy, can we interest you in perhaps a new S300 system next year.
In other news: the second apple has fallen on the head of Sir Isaac Newton. "This confirms the law of gravity", said the prominent scientist.
Thank you, these words do at least describe his actions.
Translation: "Please don't bomb us."
and crushed Chechencya, while also having a history to torn down mosque and invade Afghanistan.
In some countries, national pride is based on the ability to expand and to annex other countries to serve the "Mother" country (WWII Nazi Germany, for example). Within such kind of national pride, defense (defense systems against incoming missiles, for one) will be publicly called offense, and offense (more large offensive nuclear weapons) can publicly be called defense. And such countries will ally with terrorist regimes in order to try to carry out expansionist goals.
Russians Respect Reason For Terrorism
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210347/posts
Israel Tries to "Win Russia Over": Report [Intel Barf from Islam Barf: One man's terrorist...]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1210553/posts
Russian FM To Israel: Chechnya No, Palestine and Iranian Nukes Yes
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210302/posts
Russia, N.Korea, China give Iran missile aid-CIA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/519198/posts
US TOLD TO LEAVE CENTRAL ASIA [Russia & China demand "deadline."]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1437369/posts
Disregard for Human Life (Was Putin referring to the USA as the hostile foreign powers?)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1209036/posts
Russia says new Topol RS-12 mobile ICBM can evade U.S. missile defense
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513904/posts
Putin: Russia Building Nuclear Weapon U.S. Won't Have
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1282021/posts
It would be much better, IMO, if most of the politicians and party followers of the Russian government could see us as friends, but maybe that's not possible through the eyes of hard nationalists who desire power more than goodness.
But without nuclear materials, our anti-ballistic missile defense pieces are potentially far less expensive to manufacture and stage than are more offensive nukes being aimed at us.
ISLAM RELIGION OF PEACE: RUSSIAN-SAUDI FORUM - 05/29/2005 - "We must make one point clear: we cannot divide the world either on the ideological principle, as was the case during the Cold War, or on the religious-to fall into Muslims and non-Muslims. The sequences of such a division are very dangerous," said Primakov.
Russia Says It's Ready to Arm Saudi Arabia
Russia signs Major Tank Production Deal with Pakistan
Russia, Yemen share vision for multipolar world order
Russian MiGs in Sudan and Yemen
Russia to step up arms sales to Algeria
Russia pursues joint military projects with Turkey
Russia supports new international alliance - foreign minister - 11/10/2005 - During his Monday visit in Spain, Lavrov confirmed Russia's support for a Turkish-Spanish initiative to create an Alliance of Civilizations, which is designed to foster mutual respect for religious beliefs and traditions, along with stepping up cooperation between the Christian West and the Muslim East in the fight against terrorism and extremism. Lavrov said the new alliance would rely on Unesco's experience in bringing countries with different ideologies together and coordinating the work of non-government organizations.
Russia welcomes OIC aid to restore normal life in Chechnya - "We would welcome the contribution of your states in carrying out projects for the Chechen Republic that are being implemented through UNESCO." Russia and the OIC "act from close positions on issues connected with opposing the worst threats and challenges of the 21st century such as international terrorism and the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction". "These global challenges require collective efforts on the part of the entire world community, supported by the UN and international law," the minister said.
Abkhazia: Europe's Trap Door - "Wahhabi organizations have sprung up on the territory of Abkhazia, and where Wahhabis are, terrorists are not far behind."
Russia welcomes Balkans' integration into EU - "The role of the EU in the region will be constantly increasing until the issue of Balkans' integration in the European community is resolved."
Russia says UN should continue monitoring Kosovo - "Moscow has always advocated the key role of the UN in every stage of the Kosovo settlement."
Putin Calls for Global Fight Against Terrorism Under UN Flag - a "new global constitution free of Cold War stereotypes"
UN must lead global fight against terrorism -Putin
Putin meets Annan, praises global UN role - "We have no other effective mechanism for resolving international problems today."
Putin praises role of International Court of Justice - "The very existence of the International Court of Justice in the system of the United Nations is a major condition for the stability and lawfulness of the organization..."
**Russia signs International Criminal Court treaty!!!**
Russia Warns U.S. not to Break International Law in Afghan Attack
Russia Urges Respect for "International Law" With Al-Qa'idah Suspects
Iraq war unjustified: Putin - "Anything done without the sanction of the UN Security Council, cannot be accepted as just and justified."
Putin blasts US war in Iraq - "The use of force abroad, according to existing international laws, can only be sanctioned by the United Nations. This is the international law."
I hope US learns 'Iraqi lessons': Putin - "We have repeatedly called our American partners' attention to this reality. And eventually they realised the need to reach a political settlement in Iraq using the UN mechanisms. I believe that the new administration will undoubtedly bear in mind 'Iraqi lessons' when determining its foreign policy."
Putin Wants U.N. to Take Lead in Iraq
Russia's Putin urges US to give UN role in Iraq - "The faster we go along the path as set down by international law, the better it will be. The longer we delay a resolution within the U.N. framework, the more it will look like a colonial situation."
Putin Calls For Withdrawal Timetable For Iraq - 08/19/2005 - "Many Iraqis, we know this well, still consider these forces to be occupiers."
The Primakov Doctrine -- The Missing Link between Russia and Iraq? - By promoting this multipolar model, Primakov is attempting to dilute American international power. His version of multipolarity also provides cover for a Russian-Chinese strategic partnership which may welcome the Islamic Republic of Iran as a junior partner. Such a coalition could challenge the United States in two vital regions: the Persian Gulf and the Taiwan Strait. In addition, Primakov wants an exclusive Russian sphere of influence in the Caucasus and Central Asia. He claims that CIS countries must integrate with Russia; he supports union with Belarus; and he advocates Russia's use of force in the former Soviet region.
RUSSIA'S ARMS DEAL WITH IRAN: KREMLIN BELIEVES U.S. TOO WEAK FOR STRONG RESPONSE - 12/09/2005 - The Kremlin leadership sees the Bush administration's ill-starred Middle East adventure as a kind of "moment of truth" in international affairs. This idea is clearly expressed in a lengthy paper written by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov for Diplomaticheskii ezhegodnik-2005 and posted on the ministry's official website.
First, it has been proved that America is not a hegemon in the unipolar world, Lavrov asserts. In reality, he notes, the world is multipolar one and "practically all nations, including the leading ones, proceed from this fact in their foreign policy."
Second, the U.S. failure in Iraq appears to reveal the flawed nature of almost everything in American foreign policy that the Kremlin holds to be objectionable: unilateralism, boundless hubris, disregard for international organizations, reliance on raw force, bullying of opponents, and spreading of democracy through fomenting "color revolutions." The course of events in Iraq has led to the destruction of "many myths," Lavrov writes, and he suggests that the "post-Iraq period in global politics" will be more predictable.
In his essay, Russia's top diplomat openly challenges U.S. policy toward Iran. There are already two large unresolved conflicts in the Middle East, Lavrov points out, adding that escalation and the possible destabilization of Iran as well as of Syria -- another usual target of Washington's sharp criticism -- will only lead to the broadening of the "zone of instability." Tehran should be "engaged," not "isolated," Lavrov contends. This policy recommendation runs contrary to the line that the United States suggests the international community should take vis-à-vis Iran. "Our view is that Iran needs, in essence, to be isolated," Undersecretary Burns argued in his Moscow interview.
Emboldened by America's perceived weakness and its newly forged strategic ties with the rising eastern giants China and India, the Kremlin feels comfortable enough to recognize that its own -- and presumably its powerful allies' -- vision of the new world order differs markedly from that of the United States. Russia's optimism appears to rest on the leadership's sense that the country is an ascendant power. As Lavrov's essay asserts, "We are on the side of history."
Aaaahhh. The Communist-islamist alliance shows itself once again.
and Beijing as well. Iraq will become a vassal state of Russia/CIS and China, and the Iraqi Communist party will be put in charge.
I still think they want to come our way first.
... "So please, buy our weapons."
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