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Posted on 12/12/2005 8:39:24 AM PST by dennisw
Excellent comments from Australia right here. Wretcherd's comments are very good, he lives in Australia:
Beach riots ---->>>>
- wretchard said...
The interesting thing to me, listening to the frantic voices over the radio, was how the quickly the veneer of PC dropped. Phrases like "white Australians" and "we Lebanese Christians not those Muslims" and "terrorists" were spoken without so much as a thought. One Lebanese Christian lady said the media has been feeding the public BS by referring to everyone as "Lebanese", saying they had forgotten the critical qualifier.
And this was greasy kid stuff. All the guys out there who've been in tighter spots know that this is absolutely nothing compared to the stress of mortal danger. One of the unintended, or perhaps naively unanticipated consequences of Political Correctness is that it has forced fear and resentment underground. And its authors think that because it is out of sight, then it out of mind. Wrong. Fear, like a beast, will leap out from cover in a heartbeat. The difference between a civilized gathering and a mob is simply one of attitude.
The biggest problem caused by PC is that it prevents us -- and by that I mean everyone, including Muslims -- from facing the problem. It just festers and fester until it supurrates and bursts. This isn't kindness. It's cruelty of the worst kind. The excuse for it is that people 'mean well', but sometimes I begin to doubt even that.
- wretchard said...
Salt Lick,
No not directly. The proximate cause has been a kind of Shark vs Jets dynamic that has evolved over the last 15 years. A number of Lebanese Muslim gangs have been marauding and were famously raping white gals fairly frequently. A number were arrested but there are already liberal campaigns to get them out. Most recently, these youths have been hanging out at Maroubra beach where they ran into the surfing crowd. A few days ago, a gang of 40 Lebanese Muslims took over a beach to play soccer and were asked to leave by the lifeguards. The 40 (what is it about 40? Forty Thieves?) beat the lifeguards, one into unconsciousness. Then about 5,000 white guys showed up yesterday and chased anyone bearing a resemblance to the Lebanese Muslims into the toilets and pelted them with stuff. These were the so-called 'race-riots', but understand that unless Lebanese Muslims are a separate race from Lebanese Christians, it's not quite so.
I guess these Lebanese Muslim gangsters had to show who was boss and so they descended on Maroubra and trashed the place. Smashed cars, beat up people. Destroyed property. That's really the gang's weakness. They've gotta show that they are top dog. Just gotta.
The PC crowd haven't revved up yet so the anger is still raw, but I expect the papers to be pouring all the oil they can over the waters. Unfortunately for the PC crowd, the deodorant they peddle is often overpowered by their choice of models.
- wretchard said...
nonomous,
Maroubra beach is right next to the famous Bondi and Cogee beaches. Spectacular place just 20 minutes from downtown Sydney. Faces the Tasman sea. You come down from cliffs lined with upscale or upper middle class homes to sand and heavy surf. A lot of rips, sometimes wild water.
It's an iconic place for Australian kids. The phrase that comes to mind when I think of those Lebanese Muslim gangs pushing around the bikini babes is "they're tearing down the place where I grew up, like pouring brandy in a dixie cup". Kinda sacrilege.
In a way it's sad. Australia was an innocent place. No harm could come to you. And though I knew that harm could come to anyone, still it was nice to see people who lived in a kind of warm bubble of decency. Like Narnia I guess, before the White Witch. But I hope I've answered your question.
- wretchard said...
desert Rat,
I think they'll continue because the tactical skill in hit and run has already been demonstrated. And as I said, they've just got to prove themselves top dogs. It's a psychology thing.
Now if you go to Tim Blair's site, you'll get a sense of what Aussies are like. There's something of the residual "working class" British thing in them that makes them suspicious and cunning. So they've never bought into the PC thing any more than their forefather bought into the droning organ temperance wowsers of the early 20th century. Did you know Australia had an insurrection called the Rum Rebellion? There was a time when early settlers preferred to be paid in rum. So my guess is that if the Lebanese Muslims try to play the macho game with Aussies it will be psychologically intolerable. They'll go berserk, and while they are too civilized to really hurt the guys who live out in Lakemba, clustered around their mosque, any further riots will drive stake deeper into the heart of multiculturalism.
Listen, I heard guys on the radio asking to call out the army. I know this is adrenaline talking, but in an Aussie context that's serious stuff. And the reason is probably because they don't trust the New South Wales government, which is to Oz what California is to the US.
- wretchard said...
There are bunch of mosques in Sydney, but the one in question is about 30 miles out west, in the Lakemba area. There aren't many high rise public housing complexes, but a fair number of these gangster guys are on welfare.
Now the Lebanese Christian gal was referring to the fact that the press, in order to avoid using the right words, uses broader descriptions like "of Middle Eastern origin" or even "Lebanese" to describe these gangsters. One guy called into the radio station while the Maroubra attacks were happening and berated the announcer for covering the attacks, saying it would "inflame" the listeners. For many liberals there's no problem that can't be solved by censorship. Basically, the press has been pouring cologne over this whole mess. But by using these imprecise words and refusing to name the real perps, the press was also putting a broader category of people under suspicion, and that's what this Lebanese Christian gal was getting at. She was being tarred with the broad brush by a media afriad to use the precise description. Interesting when you look at it that way.
The Christmas remark means exactly what it means in America. The Left has declared war on Christian religious symbols in their sneaky cultural way and make a big show of this whole Ramadan thing, which is OK in and of itself. But you can see how a Lebanese Christian, already on the outs in her homeland, might object to the same process being repeated in the New Country.
- wretchard said...
mika,
Not whole civilizations. One commenter at Tim Blair's site noted how these 'youths' gave the Sydney suburb of Cabramatta a wide berth. Cabramatta is a Vietnamese enclave. His take was that the 'youths' knew better than to take on hard cases who had grown up in the Third World because these dudes knew which end of a shiv was sharpened and were not above giving you the 21 barrel salute.
And I think that speaks to missing ingredient in all this. You've got all these dim bulbs who've been positively emboldened by the pusillanimous behavior of the Left into unsustainable aggressive behavior. But they behave in a right civilized way towards the Vietnamese because any idiot knows what would happen if they tried the baseball bat routine in Cabramatta. To bring this Clash of Civilizations to a peaceful conclusion it's important to restore the legitimate immune system of societies to troublemakers. That's not all it takes, but it's a necessary part of the solution.
- wretchard said...
Goesh,
If it comes to mortal danger, there's no question it will get ugly. Guns or not, the Aussies are a physical people. From what I can tell the Left is in total damage control mode. They've got too much invested in this multiculturalism thing and it's all going down the tubes. So they're doing the worst possible thing and burying this problem deeper under their mumbo-jumbo. But that'll make it worse.
The only hope for a soft landing is for the government, the Australian Federal Government, if need be, to demonstrate the rule of law. That means cracking down real hard on those Lebanese Muslim gangs, ripping right out of their homes, closing the mosque if need be, etc. Deporting people by the boatload. And. And arresting anyone who acts as a vigilante because there should be no need to act as a vigilante if -- and its a big if -- the government does what it's supposed to do.
Given the politics in Oz, that's unlikely to happen. So my prediction is that things will get worse before they get better.
More on beach riots :)
Thanks for the posts. I forgot that Wretchard lives in Australia until I was reminided in your introductory comments.
Convert one of those Aussie sheep hauler ships to moose detention.
After reading this, I know I can.
"The biggest problem caused by PC is that it prevents us -- and by that I mean everyone, including Muslims -- from facing the problem."
ummmmmmmmm....the Muzzies ARE the problem.
Guns or not, the Aussies are a physical people.
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Good! Sounds like it's needed.
However, I wish they wouldn't attack their own police, as I saw in video footage on tv.
FYI
Thanks for the ping
182 comments here, many good ones, at Tim Blair's blog. He's Australian
http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/comments/beach_trash_duke_it_out/
You're welcome!
182 comments here, many good ones, at Tim Blair's blog. He's Australian
http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/comments/beach_trash_duke_it_out/
First Europe, then Australia, and, of course, the U.S. is next. Watch California closely. If Williams is executed Tuesday, and blacks make good their threat to repeat the Rodney King riots of 92, and California shows they are no better prepared to control riots now than they were in 92, look for Muslims to join in.
Detention on a sheep hauler ship? That'd be a dream vacation for them.
Keep up the good work, Australia.
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Would smell like home, I guess.
And don't forget the unlimited sex opportunities.
Detention on a sheep hauler ship? That'd be a dream vacation for them.
Given their religious sensibilities I'd rather see them transported on a pig ship...
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