To: narby
This view of scientific humanism implies that our alleged undirected evolutionary origin makes us fundamentally undifferentiated from animals. Thus Wilson elsewhere explains that under Neo-Darwinism, [m]orality, or more strictly our belief in morality, is merely an adaptation put in place to further our reproductive ends.
[E]thics as we understand it is an illusion fobbed on us by our genes to get us to cooperate.6 Now that the cat is out of the bag on the illusion of morality and ethics, how do we avoid the inevitable nihilism described above? I don't see how. Any variation from it seems to reveal an inconsistency in position.
Given that, I will ask the question I asked a while ago. Why do the atheist/evos care what is taught? Or care about anything for that matter? In that world view, all is vanity and anything that seems to matter is nothing more than "an illusion fobbed on us by our genes to get us to cooperate".
26 posted on
12/12/2005 8:42:03 AM PST by
Pete
To: Pete
Why do the atheist/evos care what is taught? Your first mistake is assuming that atheists and evolution proponents are one-and-the-same. Since you can't get that straight, I think it's a waste of time to comment on the rest.
27 posted on
12/12/2005 8:45:20 AM PST by
narby
(Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
To: Pete
Why do the atheist/evos care what is taught? Or care about anything for that matter? In that world view, all is vanity and anything that seems to matter is nothing more than "an illusion fobbed on us by our genes to get us to cooperate". Because we live in this world and wish to be happy and effective and prosperous in it, and for this purpose, teaching scientific truth as best we understand it is MUCH better than teaching somebody's superstition.
To: Pete
Why do the atheist/evos care what is taught? Or care about anything for that matter? Since atheists, by definition, believe that mere humans wrote the Bible, the Torah, the Koran, and any number of other religious books, the evidence is that humans have an innate affinity for moral behavior.
Basic morality, at least with regard to theft, assault, fraud , lies, etc. is common throughout human cultures, regardless of any particular faith. Any claims that morality descends solely from the Judeo/Christian God is laughable.
44 posted on
12/12/2005 9:05:19 AM PST by
narby
(Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
To: Pete
Why do the atheist/evos care what is taught? Or care about anything for that matter? In that world view, all is vanity and anything that seems to matter is nothing more than "an illusion fobbed on us by our genes to get us to cooperate". Because it's possible to believe in evolution and morals at the same time. Take off your ideological blinders; there's a wider spectrum of worldviews than you realize.
51 posted on
12/12/2005 9:12:14 AM PST by
blowfish
To: Pete
Why do the atheist/evos care what is taught? Or care about anything for that matter?
Theists assign axiomatic value to a deity or deities; atheists assign axiomatic value to something else, such as a moral code. Value flows from the axiom.
There's little difference between the two methods of creating value. This is not difficult to understand.
226 posted on
12/12/2005 12:50:17 PM PST by
aNYCguy
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