If I have to stand next to someone shooting that brake I'd rather not...
Noveske's Krink at least you can stand or shoot next too without loosing your hearing.
imo
Posted on 12/11/2005 9:13:46 PM PST by Flavius
You're on the ball, mate. Who cares about a bit of recoil, it's only natural. What's more important to me is the properties of the ammunition, and in my opinion, the 5.56 only does half the job. Whatever you hit with the 7.62 (.308) goes down and won't get up, and that's the bottom line. Most of the people I know that were trained with the 7.62 would be more than willing to carry the extra weight because they know the capabilities of the weapon justify every little bit.
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
/always thought a bleeding shoulder was a sign of a GOOD day at the range.
You are loosing 1/2 of the effectiveness of the rifle, how are you supposed to smash a commie/muzzie's head in with a rubber butt-plate, Ah well at least you still have the bayonet
Absolutely, just ask the DC sniper. I think one or two of the dozen plus that took a bullet survived.
RTI has built a working prototype that clearly demonstrates the capacity to control recoil to an extent that it can be eliminated completely, or alternatively have demonstrated a capacity to drag the weapon forward. RTI also has technology under development dealing with ballistically superior ammunition.
It doesn't have to bleed any gas, just redirect it to a termination at the the front or sides rather than the back of the cartridge (which then transfers the energy along the gun back to the shoulder/palm).
To do that it seems to me there would have to either be holes in the cartridge or in the barrel just ahead of the cartridge. These holes would dump the compression into forward oriented pockets. As long as the additional airspace was minimal, it might not affect the range significantly.
Prctice, practice, practice. The more ammo you shoot the less the apparent recoil.
I agree with you that the M14 was a very comfortable shooter.
I worked the record fire range at Ft. Ord in late '68. When the troops were in the bleachers for the instructional part, I would grab the best looking M14 I could find and have my buddy run the targets. After a while, it was no problem firing perfect scores from the offhand with no slings.
Two record fires a day and I was maybe blasting 2-300 caps.
Great fun.
Murphy's Laws of Land Warfare, Rule #45: Recoiless Rifles, aren't...
Try shooting 100 rounds through a 30'06 1903 or 1903A3. I've got both and I'd say they have more punch on the bullet end than any one of my Garands......
inconvience maybe...danger?....ok..if you say so..
"hit the gym..mumble mumble...candy a#$"
If I have to stand next to someone shooting that brake I'd rather not...
Noveske's Krink at least you can stand or shoot next too without loosing your hearing.
imo
Only so much as velocity is reduced by lower gas pressure behind the bullet. The direction of vented gas is also important. Newton's laws of conservation of momentum still apply, i.e. m1v1=m2v2 where m=mass and v=velocity
Doesn't exactly seem kosher to be using a rifle with no recoil in the Olympics.
The rifles for the Biatheletes hardly have any recoil as it is.
What do the biathaletes use?
I can imagine that one could produce a nearly recoilless firearm by running a pipe from the breach to near the muzzle (so as to be some distance from the shooter) and having that pipe feed a rearward-facing rocket nozzle. The pipe would have to start near the breach to minimize the amount of recoil before the bullet reached the pipe. Depending upon the amount of friction between the bullet and the barrel, the firearm could have either positive or negative "recoil" (e.g. if the bullet had so much friction that it barely moved, the rockets would generate forward thrust in excess of the net force (pressure minus friction) on the bullet). On the other hand, I would expect that it would be necessary to expend an awful lot of energy in the rocket, thus requiring a bigger powder charge for any particular desired amount of bullet energy.
No recoil = more accurate self defense weapons for the honest man.
Marine snipers have the same results at much longer yardage.
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