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To: ancient_geezer
I don't like your answer to the tax problem and it isn't selling to the majority of the populace, either.

What I said isn't "foundationless"; you just can't answer my questions and neither can any proponent of the FT. All you do is post reams of CCPed gobbledegook.

With tons of prebacks, there won't be any less numbers of people not paying anything and getting other people's money and I can see all kinds of ways to get around the FT, without 1/2 trying to. Just imagine what someone with lots of time and larceny in his heart can do!

116 posted on 12/13/2005 9:02:16 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I don't like your answer to the tax problem and it isn't selling to the majority of the populace, either.

I'm sure it doesn't sit well with those that don't perceive they are paying taxes now.

 

"As a matter of fact, what the income tax does — and this is the debate that I think we always try to get into in order to let you and him fight, see — and the people of this country are led down a path where the actual control of their resources, which in the end is the control over their will, is handed off to the government."

. . .

"The government then manipulates that will in order to destroy the freedom of our electoral system through the income tax structure, and we call the resulting slavery a free system."

"In point of fact, it is not as the founders understood, and the only way to restore real freedom is to give people back control over the income that they earn so that they won‘t, at the voting booth and in other phony issues, be subject to that manipulation."

- KEYES TRANSCRIPT (01/28/02)

 

 

What I said isn't "foundationless";

What foundation have you offered other than pure personal opinion? I seem to have missed it somewhere along the line.

 

you just can't answer my questions and neither can any proponent of the FT.

Each question was answered in turn, whether or not you personally get a warm fuzzy from the the information provided is irrelevant. The knowledge should be unsettling to your obvious preconception of how the world operates.

 

All you do is post reams of CCPed gobbledegook.

I see, referenced and cited material that provides underlying understanding and knowledge is "gobbledegook". An interesting characterization but rather worthless in debate or explaining much of anything.

 

With tons of prebacks, there won't be any less numbers of people not paying anything and getting other people's money and I can see all kinds of ways to get around the FT, without 1/2 trying to.

Then you won't need to worry about paying it then.

If you want to "get around" a retail sales tax, it's simple enough. Invest and save your money and don't buy new stuff. Just grow your own. Sounds like a good plan to me.

 

Taxes & Government Spending:

 

Your problem with placing the basis of income back into the hands and control of the American citizen who is to pay a federal tax is?

120 posted on 12/13/2005 9:19:48 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: nopardons

OF COURSE there "... won't be any less numbers of people not paying anything and getting other people's money ...". That's just the point. There will be far MORE people actually contributing to the tax revenues than at present (some of whom you see on these threads attacking the FairTax because it destroys their litte corner of tax-heaven they have all carved ourt).

And the prebate taxpayers are being paid comes from their own tax payments. As for your "all kinds of ways" bravado, tell us some ... and how the same sort of thing is not going on right now (and on an ever greater scale).


203 posted on 12/14/2005 2:54:58 PM PST by pigdog
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