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Israel LA envoy criticizes new Spielberg film 'Munich'
Haaretz ^ | 12/11/2005 | Haaretz

Posted on 12/11/2005 1:20:32 PM PST by Sabramerican

Israel LA envoy criticizes new Spielberg film 'Munich'

Israel's consul-general in Los Angeles levelled criticism Sunday at Steven Spielberg's "Munich," saying that the new film drew an incorrect picture of the Mossad's hunt for the PLO terrorists of the 1972 Olympic massacre, and taking the legendary director to task for morally equating the Israeli agents and their Palestinian terrorist targets.

Ehud Danoch, Consul General of Israel in Los Angeles, said Spielberg had addressed the Israeli-Palestinian conflict with "a certain pretentiousness" and "quite superficial statements."

The film follows a Mossad hit squad assigned to track down and kill the Palestinian Black September gunmen behind the abduction of Israeli athletes during the Munich Olympics. ....

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"It is, in fact, based on things that [self-styled Mossad man] Yuval Aviv told the author," Danoch said. "This same Yuval claimed to have been in the Mossad and the head of a Mossad team, a claim that was untrue. At most he was a 'selector' for El Al for a few months," Danoch said, referring to the airline's unarmed security personnel who interview departing passengers.

According to Danoch, throughout the film Spielberg equates the Mossad agents and the terrorists. "This is an incorrect moral equation. We in Israel know this. There is also a certain pretentiousness in attempting to treat a painful, decades-long conflict by means of quite superficial statements in a two and a half hour movie."

"As a Hollywood movie, I assume that in Hollywood it will be defined as a well-made film, but from the standpoint of the messages it sends, the messages are problematic."

As an example, Danoch cited a scene in which a Palestinian terrorist named Ali delivers "a monologue of two or three minutes in which he lays out the Palestinians' arguments. There is no counter-monologue to this."

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretzdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: films; hollywood; israel; jews; moviereview; movies; munich; spielberg
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1 posted on 12/11/2005 1:20:33 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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2 posted on 12/11/2005 1:30:47 PM PST by SJackson (There's no such thing as too late, that's why they invented death. Walter Matthau)
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To: Sabramerican

This movie will paint Muslim Jihadists in a favorable a light. It will equate the Israeli liquidation of the Munich terrorists with their terrorist murder of eight Israeli Olympic athletes. Cycle of violence bullsht that I can hear from the network newsclones for free,


3 posted on 12/11/2005 1:37:32 PM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: Sabramerican

well, I am glad I know not to see it now.

I'll stick with One Day in September.


4 posted on 12/11/2005 1:39:03 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Sabramerican
According to Danoch, throughout the film Spielberg equates
the Mossad agents and the terrorists.


I've got to hand it to Spielberg.
He's smart enough to know there's no percentages in telling the truth
about terrorists that are still a vital force in the world.
And know where Mr. Spielberg and his family live.
(Heck, if an obsessed fan can get into his compound, Islamic/Palestinian
terrorist wouldn't have any problem expressing their outrage at
actually being truthfully portrayed in a film.)
5 posted on 12/11/2005 1:44:19 PM PST by VOA
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To: VOA

then don't make the film at all.


6 posted on 12/11/2005 1:55:45 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
then don't make the film at all.

Maybe Mr. Spielberg wanted to earn some money for maintaining
the compound...but also wanted to keep on living.

Actually, I'm with you. If he couldn't make a film that jibes with
true history...he should not make the film.
7 posted on 12/11/2005 2:05:28 PM PST by VOA
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To: VOA

money? the dude is rolling in cash.


8 posted on 12/11/2005 2:10:17 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
money? the dude is rolling in cash.

Absolutely.
But of the few "rich" folks I know personally...there always seems to
be a "never enough" attitude.
(Don't get me wrong...I'm fully a capitalist)
9 posted on 12/11/2005 2:14:15 PM PST by VOA
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To: VOA

very true.


10 posted on 12/11/2005 2:14:55 PM PST by oceanview
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To: dennisw

Oh, I knew that the movie was going to be anti-Jew when I heard that Tony Kushner, aka UBL apologist, was doing the screenplay. (Perhaps if someone told him that UBL isn't a big fan of gay AIDS patients, that would shut him up).

However, I feel kind of bad for Speilberg considering that all his movies in the past five years have sucked. (I'm sure that this will continue the trend).


11 posted on 12/11/2005 2:25:36 PM PST by Accygirl
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To: Sabramerican
Apparently Tony Kushner is anti-Israel Jew. A "progressive." So there you go. Shame on them. They have defiled the memories of the murdered athletes.
12 posted on 12/11/2005 2:36:05 PM PST by veronica (....."send Congressman Murtha a message: that cowards cut and run, Marines never do.")
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To: Sabramerican

"As an example, Danoch cited a scene in which a Palestinian terrorist named Ali delivers "a monologue of two or three minutes in which he lays out the Palestinians' arguments. There is no counter-monologue to this.""

Haven't seen the movie but nevertheless I'd bet money the monologue will have the terr say he only wants the West Bank and Gaza, rather than the destruction of Israel. And no complaints Jordan didn't give them their homeland.


13 posted on 12/11/2005 2:47:53 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Sabramerican

He hasn't got the Chutzbah to tell the REAL truth...instead
of the Whorlywood brand...pro terrorist..pro marxist (Stevie loves Fidel)...anti America of our Founders...Anti Israel...

The best thing we could do is to let Hollywood dry up and blow
away...

They take money made on good films and bring out pure crap....
money is not their driving force...the destruction of America
is...

IMO


14 posted on 12/11/2005 2:52:59 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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To: veronica

After this movie, one may look in retrospect at Schindler's List and wonder the purpose of that movie.

Terrific movies could have been made from all sort of materials about the Holocaust. How about from some of Leon Uris's work -Mila 18 for example.

No. Spielberg makes a movie that shows the good Nazi Party member. And even the murderous camp commandant has "feelings" for the Jewish girl he would readily kill.

Liberal Jews have the Anne Frank disease. They believe "...in spite of everything that people are really good at heart." Even those who hate them and would kill them.


15 posted on 12/11/2005 2:55:20 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: Accygirl

But his TV series have rocked... Taken and Into the West were totally great.


16 posted on 12/11/2005 2:56:03 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Sabramerican

PS - I saw the Munich trailer last night when I went to see Walk the Line (which has a TV-movie-like script, but great performances, which redeemed it.) The trailer was filled with scenes of the Mossad agents wracked with remorse and guilt. PU-LEEZE.


17 posted on 12/11/2005 2:57:31 PM PST by veronica (....."send Congressman Murtha a message: that cowards cut and run, Marines never do.")
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To: Sabramerican

The movie is not getting good reviews. It's gonna bomb. Dreamworks sold just in the nick of time.


18 posted on 12/11/2005 3:03:31 PM PST by Hildy (Keyboard warrior princess - typing away for truth, justice and the American way!)
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To: dennisw

Google the name "Yuval Aviv" There's a lot of stuff out that he's the "mossad agent" the movie is based on, and that he's a fraud.

Anything where the film makers defends the use of this material?


19 posted on 12/11/2005 3:18:30 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy

Interesting stuff on this Yuval Aviv

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:svtHmzPCIRsJ:www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/596350.html+%22Yuval+Aviv%22&hl=en


20 posted on 12/11/2005 6:07:56 PM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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