Al-Qaida deputy: All Muslims must join jihad to avoid defeat of militant Islam

AP ^ | 12/11/05 | PAUL GARWOOD

[quant5]

Here is my opinion for what it is worth: Al Queda lost their only real hoping of "winning" a war and getting their stupid 'Caliphate' by attacking Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq. Zawahri is saying it is every muslims duty to participate in armed jihad. Fortunately for us that the media has reported these AQ suicide attacks against muslims. Zawahri thinks every muslim in the world cannot think on their own and will listen to Al Jazeera. He has already lost the battles and the war. It's mop up over the next few years now.

[Valin]

Here is my opinion for what it is worth: Al Queda lost their only real hoping of "winning" a war and getting their stupid 'Caliphate' by attacking Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq.


They tried that before....with a notible lack of success.

A good history of modern Islamist movement
Jihad : The Trail of Political Islam (Paperback)
by Gilles Kepel, Anthony F. Roberts
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674010906/104-4914374-6174369?v=glance&n=283155

Amazon.com
Gilles Kepel's Jihad is an intense, detailed examination of the militant Islamist movement over the last quarter-century. Kepel divides his book into two parts--"Expansion" and "Decline"--and posits that the September 11, 2001, attacks, rather than demonstrating "strength and irrepressible might," highlighted the "isolation" and "fragmentation" of a "faltering" and probably doomed extremist ideology. Kepel follows Islamism from its theoretical underpinnings in the late 1960s and its rapid expansion into Africa, the Middle East, the Balkans, and Central, South, and Southeast Asia, through the Taliban's ascendancy in Afghanistan and beyond. He explains Islamism's attractions, and outlines its severe shortcomings. With consummate skill, he illuminates the bewilderingly intricate effects global events (oil prices, the fall of Communism) have had on internal politics of individual countries, and vice versa. Kepel, wisely, refuses to prognosticate. Instead, his achievement is in providing--for the determined reader--a deeply authoritative context for the seemingly inexplicable events of the recent past. --H. O'Billovich


(Note: it was published in 03 so some of it is out dated)

[quant5]

"Mushareff has been a good ally and must operate with the knowledge that many of his country men are anti-US. This requires a delicate balancing act which constrains our freedom of action."

Exactly. He has had what, no less then five assasination attempts on his life because he is trying to do what is right. It takes time to redevelop your intelligence agencies to following a POTUS, look here at the USA and what we have been through to get cooperation and the our intelligence agencies are a picknick compared to the ISI.

[quant5]

"They tried that before....with a notible lack of success."

I love history and the learning that can be extrapolated from it. I am glad our enemies have such a narrow view of history and how to react to it by making the same mistakes over and over and over.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Apparently you confuse what I wrote with someone else's writing since I never made any statement such as you attribute to me. In fact, I have stated repeatedly that we must accept this RoP rhetoric as a tactical necessity.

Muslims in the minority act completely different than they do when in the majority when blood often does "run in the streets." Evidence from across the globe clearly shows this to be true.

The closer to the Koran the muslim gets the worse a person he is unlike Christians who are better people the closer to the Bible they get. Since Islam is a religion which forces believers it cannot compete with less violent ones.
The threat of death was always a major element in its proselytizing.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Trying to stuff the genies Clinton let lose back into that bottle is not easy. Repairing his damage will take decades.

[Valin]

Live with TAE: Robert Kaplan (Do yourself a favor)
The American Enterprise ^ | January/February 2006 | Robert Kaplan

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1538833/posts

(snip)
TAE: Is Islam a religion of peace, or is there is a bellicose spirit right at the heart of Islam?


Kaplan: Islam is a religion that’s willing to fight. It’s a great religion for poor, downtrodden people, and there are so many around the world. It’s direct. It’s stark. It’s in a specific language. The Koran has fewer ambiguities than other religious texts. In a way, it’s very populist. It actively proselytizes. And even though I wouldn’t call it a war-like religion, it can adjust itself to war more easily than others.



But Old Testament-oriented Christianity can also do that. The Old Testament is all fire and brimstone, while the New Testament is more milk and honey. And evangelicals put a significant emphasis on the Old Testament.



TAE: Where are the moderate Muslims today? Why don’t we hear more from them after outrages are committed in the name of Islam?


Kaplan: I think they’ll be more outspoken if we can stick it out in Iraq. Look at the fact that some Sunnis were bombing mosques during Ramadan. How come nobody’s protesting in the Arab world? But once our success is assured, I think they’ll speak up.



Meanwhile, we do have Ayatollah Sistani. If Nobel Peace Prizes actually went to people who deserved them, it would have gone to him this year. Sistani exercised tremendous enlightened restraint in the face of so much violent provocation, and he really kept his community together. I do think we’ve gotten lucky with the Shiite leadership in southern Iraq.

[Dajjal]

"Neglected duty" bump

[quant5]

"Trying to stuff the genies Clinton let lose back into that bottle is not easy. Repairing his damage will take decades."

Clinton did his damage by ignoring this problem similar to how Carter responded to the same threat, doing nothing. This did enbolden our enemies, but I dont think it will take our enemies decades to figure out we mean business. After all, they attacked us and we gave chase and destroyed them over there. Let's just hope for another Republican president for another 8 years and this problem will most likely be solved.

[tiki]

The real truth is that they lost their war when they attacked America on 9/11.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Our enemies at home are desperately trying to prevent just such a thing. After 12 yrs of Republican leadership against our enemies it only took four yes of RAT misrule to undermine almost all the positive efforts. So far the American people have resisted the temptation to allow that misrule but just barely.