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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 11 December 2005
Various big media television networks ^ | 11 December 2005 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 12/11/2005 5:02:12 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

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To: OldFriend; kabar

So Murtha's aide told you he believes we deserved the Somalia disaster because "they didn't want us there?".....just like the Iraqis don't want us there?

my mind hurts just trying to process that logic.....kabar where is your list of 9/11; London; Bali; The USS Cole, etc......I think we need to get a written response from Mr. Murtha's aide on why the whole damn world deserves these terror actions!


481 posted on 12/11/2005 9:19:44 AM PST by chgomac
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To: Peach

I agree, it astounds me that so much that I read here (well documented, provable) isn't picked up by our "leaders". I am afraid that overall the quality of washington leadership is not very good, Republicans included.


482 posted on 12/11/2005 9:20:30 AM PST by sgtyork (jack murtha and the media -- unconditional surrender used to mean the enemy surrendered)
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To: rodguy911

Charles Duelfer said he can't rule out the possibility that Iraq's WMD were secretly shipped to Syria before 3/03 citing sufficient credible evidence that the WMD were moved.

Duelfer made the findings in an addendum to his final report last year.

It was well known that Syria was a major conduit for obtaining UN-banned materials for Iraq. Several senior US officials have seen intelligence which shows it is likely that Iraq's WMD went to Syria.

Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong, the dputy commander of CentCom, wrote in his book "Inside CentCom" that intelligence reports pointed to WMD movement into Syria.

John Shaw, then the deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, told The Times in October 2004 that Russian special forces and intelligence troops worked with Saddam's intel services to move WMD to Syria.

Before changing his mind again (ala John Kerry), David Kay, the UN weapons inspector, told Tom Brokaw in July 2003 that based on millions of pages of internal Iraqi government documents recovered from Saddam's regime, he was convinced that Iraq had WMD which were taken out of the country before the war. Among the documents which have been translated:

- corresponsence between various Iraqi organizations giving instructions on how to hide WMD;

- chemical agent purchase orders dated 12/01;

- WMD protection suits and instructions on how to hide chemicals;

- ricin research; and

- a memo from the Iraqi Intelligence Service on how to hid information from a UN inspection team.

Bill Clinton, perhaps remembering his own rhetoric about the danger that Iraq's WMD program posed to not just the region but the United States, said in a July 2003 interview on Larry Kind that "it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there was a substantial amount of biological and chemical material unaccounted for" in Iraq.

In June 2004, UNMOVIC's executive Chairman, Demetrius Perricos, detailed the exprt of thousands of tons of missile components, nuclear reactor vessels and formentors for WMD warheads and the discovery of some of these items, with UN inspection tags still on them, as far away as Turkey, Holland and Jordan.

And, I still want to know. Since the majority of the Congressional leadership did not review the intelligence information prepared by the CIA at the Democrat's request, how can they make a considered judgement that the intelligence was flawed or manipulated?


483 posted on 12/11/2005 9:20:50 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
After watching MTP with Notbright and Prez Graham re: torture.

They kept saying that treating prisoners "nice" protects our soldiers who are taken prisoner. Are they f'ing serious? When have our enemies ever adhered to "rules" during war? PLEASE respond if I'm missing something here...

484 posted on 12/11/2005 9:21:02 AM PST by Scarchin (www.classdismissedblog.com.)
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To: Thebaddog

Russert has lost a lot of stature, imo, especially since he started having Maureen Dowd on the panel. That's tantamount to having Ann Coulter on a panel which is supposed to be taken seriously.

I like Ann and her articles often make me laugh. But she's not exactly a serious political commentator.


485 posted on 12/11/2005 9:22:24 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: OldFriend

Of course! IF you'll vote for them, the Democrats will make sure you win the lottery. For that matter, it will be proof they ARE the lottery.


486 posted on 12/11/2005 9:22:25 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: chgomac

At least we know when we're forgetting something -- it's when we don't know that we don't know. LOL


487 posted on 12/11/2005 9:23:20 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: anita
You will be able to fill 20 or 30 trash cans with all the cut up tape from that interview, it will be unrecognizable, 4 hours cut up into 180 highly spun seconds.
I listended to an nbc broadcast of the nightly news last night as I drove and could hardly keep from laughing at the spin they employ in nearly every segment. The big worry of the night--will tookie's pals burn down l.a. if he gets fried. Haven't heard them in a longtime, it was astounding.
488 posted on 12/11/2005 9:24:20 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support Able Danger and Lt.Col Shaffer,Condi Rice/VP in 08--)
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To: Chuck54

Whoa! That's higher than I'd remembered. Thanks for that important information.


489 posted on 12/11/2005 9:24:33 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: rodguy911

Exactly why I like Rumsfeld's telling all reporters he's taping their interview, and will have it available in total on the DOD web site. Sure changes the reporters attitudes and questions once they realize they themselves will be exposed if they try to misreport or change meanings.


490 posted on 12/11/2005 9:27:15 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: rodguy911
A Marine confronts nightmares of Iraq - but are they real?

Associated Press (!) doing a fact checking about a story it reported earlier and found out that the alleged nightmares are not real.

Chris Mathews was shouting it for 2 days.

491 posted on 12/11/2005 9:27:46 AM PST by anita
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To: Alas Babylon!
I record FoxNews Sunday at 8AM. Then I try and watch it. The last 6 wks I've been unable to stand watching it... Chris Wallace, the bleeding heart liberal, has turned FoxNews Sunday into just another news program just like the alphabet news program. I've been screaming my head off over his programs to Fox.

Well, maybe my and other emails have finally gotten Foxes attention. Today I was able to watch the whole program. No more stabbing at the Republicans, the war on terror or Rove coming indictments (which is an absolute sham). The loyal viewers of FoxNews Sunday, if offended as I have been, have been exiting in large numbers. In fact, I was moving to stop even recording this program. I'll not stop, and if coming programs continue as this one was today, I'll keep watching.

492 posted on 12/11/2005 9:28:53 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: daybreakcoming
But Chuckie I didn't bring a white flag with me"
493 posted on 12/11/2005 9:30:21 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support Able Danger and Lt.Col Shaffer,Condi Rice/VP in 08--)
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To: Peach

I can't wait for the live thread; will try to participate.


494 posted on 12/11/2005 9:31:23 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Morgan in Denver
If you had to define the essence of "being" a Democrat it would be the word "redefine" that's what they do. It is their everything!!
495 posted on 12/11/2005 9:33:05 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support Able Danger and Lt.Col Shaffer,Condi Rice/VP in 08--)
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To: OldFriend
Juan still insisting that the exit polls were right and the actual voting machine counts were wrong. He still thinks Kerry won!!!

I honestly think one of those loony left DemocRATS should sponsor a bill doing away with that actual election and just run a poll (controlled of course by the bosom buddies in the MSM). See how they would be laughed out of congress!

496 posted on 12/11/2005 9:33:06 AM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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To: Morgan in Denver

for sure.


497 posted on 12/11/2005 9:35:36 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support Able Danger and Lt.Col Shaffer,Condi Rice/VP in 08--)
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To: shield
Yeah, when Chris Wallace says Mike Wallace Has 'Lost It' about his father's arrogant comments, he is growing albeit slowly.
498 posted on 12/11/2005 9:37:19 AM PST by anita
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To: Peach

It was closer to 60%.


499 posted on 12/11/2005 9:37:24 AM PST by johnny7 (“You have a corpse in a car, minus a head, in the garage. Take me to it.”)
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To: p23185

Nothing a dem says surprises me. But the problem lies in the fact that other idjits pick up their kooky comments and repeat them every where. Did you ever listen to CSPIN.....good grief!


500 posted on 12/11/2005 9:37:27 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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