Posted on 12/10/2005 9:06:19 PM PST by jmc1969
WASHINGTON -- Rudy Giuliani and John McCain are the top-polling Republican rivals for the White House in 2008, but the two dinner buddies avoid talking about that topic when sharing tortellini and bresaola at Giuliani's favorite Manhattan bistros.
Their latest get-together took place on Nov. 1 at Elio's, an Upper East Side eatery known for its $30 veal chops. They shared a table with McCain confidante Mark Salter, Giuliani's wife Judith and his aide-de-camp Tony Carbonetti. McCain and Giuliani reportedly chatted about the food, sports and Iraq -- everything but 2008.
The same can't be said for the Arizona senator's operatives, who are girding for a clash between the two titans even though Giuliani could be a year away from making a decision. Some even predict the Straight Talk Express will roll over America's Mayor if it comes down to McCain vs. Giuliani.
"I think Rudy would make an attractive secretary of state or secretary of defense in a McCain administration," Marshall Wittmann, a former McCain aide who is still close to the senator.
"In my humble opinion, Rudy wouldn't get out of the gate," said longtime McCain strategist John Dennehy, who helped engineer the Arizona senator's victorious 2000 primary in New Hampshire.
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I smell ozone in your future.
Perhaps you need to tell your friends the FACTS about McLame. They'd soon loose their taste for him, if they knew what kind of man he really is.
Put down the pipe. Rudy would be toast.
He can't even beat Hillary in New Youk! Lets see him run against HER in 06. - Ain't gonna happen.
Or in 08.
He also spilled his guts to the VC!
If I ran the Republican party, I`d buy time on every network, every night, and show those planes hitting the Towers. That says it all.
I don't know. I might have to sit that one out. I might be able to force myself to vote for Guliani, but I think if the pubbies go for a northeastern (or southwestern) moderate, they're handing the election to the Rats. The money Republicans will vote for a pro-life candidates, but the pro-lifers will sit home. Probably about 15% of the GOP voters will not pull the lever for a pro-abort. That will be fatal in just about any national election.
Uh huh. Fortunately, international environments don't vote, we do, and I'd look very favorably at his running
McCain isn't 100% prolife when it comes to our POWs.
May 3, 1992
Memorandum for: Vice Chairman, Senate Select Committee on Prisoners of War and Missing in Action
From: John F. McCreary
Subject: Possible Violations of Title 18, U.S.C., Section 2071, by the Select Committee and Possible Ethical Misconduct by Staff Attorneys.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1209454/posts?page=189#189
Memorandum for: Vice Chairman, Senate Select Committee on Prisoners of War and Missing in Action
>>>b. On 9 April 1992, at the beginning of the meeting of the Select Committee and prior to the scheduled investigators' briefing, Senator McCain produced a copy of the intelligence briefing text, with whose contents he strongly disagreed. He charged that the briefing text had already been leaked to a POW/MIA activist, but was reassured by the Chairman that such was not the case. He replied that he was certain it would be leaked. Whereupon, the Chairman assured Senator McCain that there would be no leaks because all copies would be gathered and destroyed, and he gave orders to that effect. No senior staff member or attorney present cautioned against a possible violation of Title 18, U.S.C., Section 2071, or of Senate or Select Committee Rules.<<<<
Condi Rice!!! It will never, ever happen.
Why doesn't anyone challenge McCain's Senate seat? I do not like this guy at all and will do whatever it takes to defeat him.
I agree 100%. I will not be happy with either of them.
However, if the choice is between the two, I would take Rudy any day. McCain has proven himself to be a selfish self promoter and a "gone with the wind" politician.
Romney will be stronger than even Rudy.
If 15% of the GOP won't vote for a pro abort candidate, that's about 5% of the voters. Can a guy with Rudy's stature make up that slack among the general population.
Yes, of course he could.
If Rudy gets the nomination and wins the general election, the pro life movement's leadership and rank and file need to seriously rethink things. Checking out of the political process advances no legitimate, meaningful goal.
The sad fact is, and I have mentioned this on FR many times, is that the pro life movement is a mess with very little to show for its work since 1973. They have lost ground and have been beaten back so far that they can't even get the california proposition for parental notification for minors seeking abortions passed.
As I have said many times on FR, the pro life leadership is stuck on stupid: they insist on fighting the 1973 abortion battle that they lost. They have been refighting that battle and losing ever since, unable to cope with the fact that most Americans are against abortion, but could imagine a circumstance where even they might advocate one.
The USA has no pro life majority. It's a mildly pro choice consensus. Sad but true. Lets get to work within that framework.
bttt!
Well, the reason the MSM promotes McCain is to hurt bush. When time comes, they will of course promote the Democrat nominee. Even McCain won't get the MSM love.
I have NO idea.
Well, the reason the MSM promotes McCain is to hurt bush. When time comes, they will of course promote the Democrat nominee. Even McCain won't get the MSM love.
Same here, Rudy WAY over McCain.
I'll never forget when Rudy wouldn't allow Arafat to come to some affair in Manhattan.
And when he returned the 10 million check of some Arab guy after 9/11.
:-)
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