State ties steep costs to illegal immigration

Star Tribune ^ | December 9, 2005

[jb6]

A report that put the public cost at up to $188 million a year brought harsh reaction from immigrant advocates and signaled a key issue in 2006. Conrad Defiebre, Star Tribune Last update: December 9, 2005 at 8:06 AM Printer friendly E-mail this story Related content Talk: Is it time for change? Download the report (.pdf)Politics Coleman makes 3 more appointments

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Bush visit stirring Twin Cities A new government report that pegs the public cost of illegal immigration in Minnesota at up to $188 million a year was released Thursday, setting the stage for what could be a divisive and pivotal debate in next year's legislative session and election campaign.

[gubamyster]

ping

[B4Ranch]

A very quick way to spend $188 million a year!

>> Thursday's report was produced by the Department of Administration, whose commissioner, Dana Badgerow, called its findings "alarming." <<

>>It estimated the number of illegal, or undocumented, immigrants in Minnesota at 80,000 to 85,000, more than the numbers in at least 20 other states. An estimated 17,000 of their children cost public schools $146 million to $158 million to educate in 2004, and another $30 million went to costs for subsidized health care and incarceration for crime, the report said. "In addition, illegal immigrants arguably displace American workers, which contributes to lost jobs and wages," it said." <<

This needs to be repeated "In addition, illegal immigrants arguably displace American workers, which contributes to lost jobs and wages," it said."

That means they haven't added in the wages and taxes lost from the displaced and unemployed Americans.

Using their figures let's use a low approximation of $100 million for 50,000 illegal aliens. That works out to $2000 per each illegal immigrant or a BILLION DOLLARS per 1 MILLION ILLEGALS.

Sleep well, Vote Republican (SARCASM!)

[janetgreen]

Miguel, 35, an undocumented construction worker from Mexico living in Minneapolis whose last name was withheld for privacy reasons, said illegal immigrants contribute to the state economy.

"It doesn't make any sense worrying how much it costs for us to be here," he said Thursday. "We just come to work hard. We're just trying to survive."

Miguel thinks that American dollars grow on trees. He either doesn't realize or doesn't care that those dollars to support illegal aliens like him are coming out of OUR pockets.

Millions of dollars in Minnesota? Try 10 billion dollars in California.

Any politician encouraging "guestworkers" and/or amnesty doesn't deserve to be re-elected.

[Calpernia]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1472612/posts?page=38#38

Impact from illegal alien labor:

- Costing health care, retirement funding, education and law enforcement, accruing at $30 billion per year.

- USA is foregoing $35 billion a year in income tax collections because of the number of jobs that are now off the books.

- Census Bureau estimates that 8.7 million people are illegally residing in the USA

- Urban Institute estimates a total of 9.3 million are illegally residing in the USA

- Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates a total of 9.2 million are illegally residing in the USA

- The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) stated that the Bureau of Labor could have missed as many as 10% of illegal aliens, since illegal aliens avoid census questionnaires. The CIS suggests the total illegal population is at 10 million or higher (March 2004).

- Employers have incentive to hire undocumented workers off the books.

- Overseas labor markets have forced US employers to find innovative ways to capitalize on sources of cheaper labor to stay competitive.

- Employers place pressure on the government to ignore the flood of cheap labor.

- Services, ie but not limited to: public school enrollment, language proficiency programs, and building permits, that cater to illegal aliens have increased in areas that are considered gateways for immigration.

- The top nine states that account for 50% of illegal aliens are: California, Texas, Florida, New York, Illinois, New Jersey, Arizona, Georgia and North Carolina.

- Sole authority to govern immigration flow is placed on the federal government.

- Responsibility for providing support to legal and illegal immigrants rests with the state and local governments.

- Immigrants send home on average $1,400 to $1,500 per year through money transfers (also called Remittances).

- As per the World Bank in 2002, people sent $133 billion worldwide. Developing countries accounted for $88 billion of that.

- Remittances from the United States to Mexico have tripled to $13 billion between 1995 and 2003.

- As per the Pew Hispanic Center, 39% of surveyed Latino immigrants listed themselves as having legal status to opening bank accounts. This enables cash transfers through private money centers such as Western Union and Money Gram.

- HOWEVER, banks including Citibank, Bank of America, and Wells Fargo Bank began accepting matriculas, which are photographed identity cards for Mexicans living in the US.

- Matriculas are obtainable by any legal or illegal Mexican. Matriculas are widely obtainable through Mexican consulates across the USA.

- To date, around 2.5 million matriculas have been issued, and the number is growing.

- In major illegal alien gateway cities, the influx of immigrants has led to a housing boom unexplained by official population growth.

- In New Jersey, the three gateway towns are New Brunswick, Elizabeth, and Newark.

- Housing permits in these three towns shot up over six-fold, while the rest of the three counties only saw a three-fold increase.

- 80% of these permits were designated for multiple tenent dwellings.

- Official statistics state that illegal aliens in New Jersey have jumped 110% – an estimate that is inconsistent with the housing statistics. Local realtors' stats for multiple tenent housing and school enrollments suggest the number is higher.

- The major illegal alien gateway cities have experienced school enrollments much higher than projections.

- The decrease in the number of births in the past decade had led education administrators to expect decreasing school enrollments as a post echo boom trend.

- A higher immigration rate, however, has offset the impact of declining births.

- Enrollment stats for major illegal alien gateway city school districts that included: Queens, New York; Elizabeth, Newark and New Brunswick, New Jersey; and Wake County in North Carolina revealed explosive growth in immigrant students, far beyond numbers consistent with *legal* migration limits.

- NYC public school system is the largest in the nation, enrollment of 1.1 million students.

- Immigrant student enrollment for 1998-2001 was 103,000, with Queens accounting for the largest share, 37,000.

- Between 1990 and 2001, more than half of New York City’s school districts increased their enrollments 10% or more, driven by a high number of immigrant students.

- New York City Public Schools, 1999 to 2001: 102,867 immigrant students: Dominican Republic, China, Jamaica, Mexico, Pakistan, Ecuador, Colombia and Haiti.

[Liberfighter]

Remember, it takes tax money to support the troops.

[Jigsaw John]

Using their figures let's use a low approximation of $100 million for 50,000 illegal aliens. That works out to $2000 per each illegal immigrant or a BILLION DOLLARS per 1 MILLION ILLEGALS. Sleep well, Vote Republican (SARCASM!)

That's incredible.

[Calpernia]

I don't understand your comment in reference to my post.

[Liberfighter]

"USA is foregoing $35 billion a year in income tax collections because of the number of jobs that are now off the books"

I was saying that all the people who don't pay taxes by paying illegals hurt our budget, and our defense. I wasn't critizing you.

[Calpernia]

Oh, good point. I wasn't offended, I just didn't get it.

Bump!

Goodnight :)

[jb6]

Yeah, that's why Wake County upped my frigging realastate tax to pay for the illegal's kiddies. That and the fact that this area is a major settling place for Islamics, it's just down disturbing.

[Travis McGee]

Bienvenidos a Amexica. Oprima el numero dos para Ingles.

[azhenfud]

"It doesn't make any sense worrying how much it costs for us to be here,"

Not only does Mexico export illegal aliens, Mexico exports DUMB illegal aliens. Micky doesn't "worry" because it hasn't COST HIM enough yet.

[hershey]

Gee, what a surprise.

[Calpernia]

>>>>Yeah, that's why Wake County upped my frigging realastate tax to pay for the illegal's kiddies. That and the fact that this area is a major settling place for Islamics, it's just down disturbing.

That means Wake County is a gateway community. (gateway was explained in my post). My area is a gateway too.

My husband is a physician that covers an E.R. on shifts. Within the past year there has been some odd spike in illegal crack heads coming in pregnant. I can't even begin to explain how emotional this has been making me since our taxes go to pay for this and I'm in 'I want another baby' mode. We are done having children financially. And yet I get to support the crack head illegals with unwanted babies and my hormones can't handle it.

[stephenjohnbanker]

""It doesn't make any sense worrying how much it costs for us to be here," he said Thursday. "We just come to work hard. We're just trying to survive.""

We do care what it costs, you f'ing moron!

[raybbr]

​ ​​​​We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.

Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.

For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.

George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000.

Just part of the "new America".

[VOA]

This is a step forward for Minnesota.
When my brother was in graduate school in the Twin Cities, it would have
been pretty unthinkable to see a "racist, anti-immigrant" (= truthful) article
like this in the local press.

[kstewskis]

Miguel, 35, an undocumented construction worker from Mexico living in Minneapolis whose last name was withheld for privacy reasons, said illegal immigrants contribute to the state economy.

"It doesn't make any sense worrying how much it costs for us to be here," he said Thursday. "We just come to work hard. We're just trying to survive."

Excuuuuuuse me, Miguel...like the rest of us don't contribute to the economy by working hard, paying for our own health care, schools, and trying to survive in addition to paying for all of YOUR expenses?

Lame excuse. Try again.

Interesting comment I heard from a patient of mine, who is moving to Mexico to open up a factory. It clarified a lot to me as to why we as Americans see it as such a problem, and the illegals don't.

He said that he had no problem finding willing, hard workers around Guaymas. The big thing, he was saying, was that it was like he was hiring (adopting) the entire "family" in the deal. It wasn't just the person he was hiring...it was that he was hiring the entire family issues, care, ect. They were making (and expecting) it to be his responsibility, as The Boss, to take care of the family things too, as opposed to paying the worker his daily wage and be done with it.

He equated it to almost like being a "caregiver" to a large family, for each employee he hired. It was an eye opener for him, and a cultural reality.

[Plutarch]

The enthusiasm of business for illegals would vanish in an instant if the employer was stuck with the bill for the social services.

The FR illegal advocates run from any discussion of the cost of social services like a scalded dog.