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WA ST Democrat Party Selling Anti-Christian Car Magnet (FISH SYMBOL, CROSS, HELL FIRE, "HYPOCRITE")
KIRO710.com ^ | 12/9/05 | Dori Monson

Posted on 12/09/2005 12:34:25 PM PST by paulat

This was the image of the car magnet for sale on the OFFICIAL Washington State Democrat Party website.

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The image has been taken down since Dori called Party Chairman Paul Berendt and asked him to explain why it was being sold.

Dori is streaming live at kiro710.com. Click on the KIRO link to see his latest post.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: antichristianbigotry; atheistdems; christhater; christian; christophobia; jesusfish; jesushaters; moralabsolutes; persecution; radicalleftists; symbol; tolerantleft; traitor; ungodly; washington
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To: Spanaway Lori

Not sure if you saw, but if you go to my original KIRO link, you can see the original page.


61 posted on 12/09/2005 10:49:31 PM PST by paulat
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To: mlc9852

How long will it be before this anti-Christian nonsense segues into anti-semitism?

It will sooner or later; if you think of Judaism as the parent and Christianity as the child, well, when a person hates the child, they are bound to hate the parent as well.


62 posted on 12/09/2005 11:22:43 PM PST by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites.)
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To: paulat
Interesting. This right after a snide and sneering jab at Christians and Christmas by Seattle Time's Danny Westneat....

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/dannywestneat/2002668964_danny07.html

63 posted on 12/09/2005 11:45:07 PM PST by 4woodenboats (google french victories with no " ", hit the "feeling lucky" button, and LYAO)
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To: 4woodenboats
Interesting. This right after a snide and sneering jab at Christians and Christmas by Seattle Time's Danny Westneat....

wooden...read it again. I think you might have misinterpreted Danny's column.

Disclaimer: I do not respect a grown man named "Danny."

64 posted on 12/09/2005 11:53:51 PM PST by paulat
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To: paulat
WorldNetDaily covered the story as well: Democrats sell Christian 'hypocrite' sticker
65 posted on 12/10/2005 8:02:23 AM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: paulat
Paulat, if you read it quick you might think he's sincere. Read it again and you will see that Westneat is telling us we have no business practicing - or celebrating our religion in public.

The addressee is the left's icon for a religous whacko, not Danny's own pastor.

In that paragragh he states that the only place Americans are likely to hear about Jesus's birth is in the "retail core" (stores), clearly indicating we're a bunch of ignorant hypocrites who don't go to church or read the bible.

The middle of the body of text beginning with "I hope so, for Jesus sake, but I have my doubts" clearly inferes that Jesus is losing. This is the rallying cry of Satan & the liberal movement.

It ends with "And here's what's truly sad. After we are persecuted from the malls, how are we supposed to observe the birth of the Lord? What's left for us? Just church? The family hearth?

I can't imagine what Jesus would have said about that."

My emphasis added, I think this speaks for itself.

The article was designed to mislead some readers into thinking he was a self effacing Christian tired of the "hype" while being a very clear slap at Christians who recognize Westneat for the pompous ultraliberal troll that he is.

66 posted on 12/10/2005 9:34:06 AM PST by 4woodenboats (google french victories with no " ", hit the "feeling lucky" button, and LYAO)
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To: paulat
It is good they are letting their true colors show through. They really are anti-Christian.

A) Everyone is a hypocrite, to some degree, regardless of worldview. A secularist (who best represents "them") is every bit as inconsistent in doing good to another human being as a professing Christian who does evil. The former is violating the evolutionary tenet of "survival of the fittest": logically, one who believes in that should be the most selfish, avaricious, and ruthless person around. Thankfully, few live this consistently.

B) Democrats are nominally anti-Christian, their protests to the contrary notwithstanding. These silly tokens exemplify that. They are the party, first and most significantly, of organized mass-execution of the unborn (under the ridiculous rubric of "choice" - Tookie Williams made a "choice"). They are the party of the dissolution of absoultes. They are the party of nihilism, oblivion.

They are the party of hate.

They can ridicule all they want. They have no hope to offer in place: what is the hope of the old man, dying of a terminal illness, without the very thing so derided here? They are to be pitied.

67 posted on 12/10/2005 10:54:20 AM PST by Lexinom
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To: Penny1

PING.


68 posted on 12/11/2005 10:49:42 PM PST by irishtenor (At 270 pounds, I am twice the bike rider Lance is.)
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To: All
UPDATE - Monday, 12-12-05

http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110007670

James Taranto's "Best of the Web Today" in the WSJ runs this item:

Donkeys vs. Christians
Blogger David Carson reports that the Democratic Party of Washington state last week was offering for sale car magnets showing the familiar Christian fish symbol--only inside the fish appears the word HYPOCRITE and a cross against a background of red-orange flames.

Presumably the cross-burning imagery is unintentional. Even so, the politics of this are puzzling. To be sure, there are people with a strong distaste for Christianity, and especially for Christian conservatives, but this is a fairly small group, and the vast majority of them surely vote Democratic anyway. According to Adherents.com, 82% of Americans are Christians. It's hard to see how a political party can hope to build a majority by alienating four-fifths of the electorate.

We guess this occurred to the Dems, who quickly removed the offending magnet from its Web page advertising it--but not before radio host Dori Monson saved a copy.

MY NOTE: UPDATE - Monday, 12-12-05, 2 P.M. PT

Still no response from the State Democratic Party.

69 posted on 12/12/2005 1:59:16 PM PST by paulat
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To: sionnsar

Not sure if you saw the update.


70 posted on 12/12/2005 7:11:48 PM PST by paulat
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To: paulat

Thanks for posting that link to adherents.com, very informative.


71 posted on 12/13/2005 12:51:41 AM PST by 4woodenboats
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To: 4woodenboats; sionnsar
MY NOTE: UPDATE - Tuesday, 12-13-05, 3:30 P.M. PT

Still no response from the State Democratic Party.

Dori gave out their number today and asked his listeners to politely call and complain:

Telephone 206 583 0664
Fax 206 583 0301
Email info@wa-democrats.org

The state party chairman's name is Paul Berendt.

72 posted on 12/13/2005 3:47:48 PM PST by paulat
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To: paulat

I doubt you'll see a response.


73 posted on 12/13/2005 4:18:06 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || To Libs: You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: paulat
I sent one last night to bertha@wa-democrats.org asking "What happened to the cross burning hypocrite fish?".

Will post any response I get.

74 posted on 12/13/2005 6:14:19 PM PST by 4woodenboats ("Oh Holy Night" is stuck in my head. Hum a few bars and get it stuck in yours too!)
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To: sionnsar; 4woodenboats; All

Paul Berendt has agreed to come on Dori's show right after the top of the hour:

KIRO 710, 710KIRO.com, Seattle, 1 p.m. PT


75 posted on 12/14/2005 12:57:30 PM PST by paulat
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To: paulat

Let us know what transpires, please.


76 posted on 12/14/2005 1:19:18 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || To Libs: You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: sionnsar
Pretty much the same as the Seattle Times story. Berendt said Bertha (the person who runs the sales site) is a woman in her 70s and a Christian, and he wasn't going to fire her. Dori asked what if it had been a rainbow symbol for gays, etc. Berendt weaseled it as he always does.

Notice how the Times calls it a "parody" -- if it had been any other group maligned, it would have been "hate speech."

Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - Page updated at 12:00 AM

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002682385_fish14m.html

Democrats under fire over fish parody By Ralph Thomas

Seattle Times Olympia bureau

OLYMPIA — The state Democratic Party is catching heat for posting an item on its Web site that parodies the popular Christian fish symbol commonly seen on the back of cars.

The item — a magnetic version of the fish, emblazoned with flames and the word "Hypocrite" alongside a cross — appeared last week on the Democrats' Web site. It was displayed along with other political-message magnets, bumper stickers and buttons that the party sells.

State Democratic Party Chairman Paul Berendt said he first found out about the hypocrite fish posting on Friday when someone from KIRO radio called to ask him to go on the air to give an explanation.

"The moment I became aware of it, I insisted it be taken down," Berendt said Tuesday. "I'm sorry if anyone was offended. It's embarrassing."

Berendt said the item had not been "properly vetted" and was on the Web site for less than 48 hours. He said the party didn't even have any of the magnets in stock.

"We didn't sell any of them, and we're not going to," he said.

State Rep. Doug Ericksen, R-Bellingham, put out a news release Tuesday criticizing the Democrats for posting what he described as an "anti-Christian" symbol.

"It's just amazing that they have people sitting in their office who think that way," Ericksen said. "You would never see anything on a Republican Web site demeaning Judaism or the Islamic faith."

The fish magnet is copyrighted by a Mount Vernon company called Reefer Magnets. The company mostly sells magnets with pro-marijuana messages such as "Hemp is Patriotic" and "Jesus is coming, roll another joint."

Berendt said he wasn't sure what the fish symbol is supposed to mean but said he thinks it is aimed at "people who claim to be pro-life but are for the death penalty."

Ralph Thomas: 360-943-9882

77 posted on 12/14/2005 3:21:17 PM PST by paulat
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To: Horatio Gates

Hilarious photo of Christine Gregoire!


78 posted on 12/14/2005 4:35:59 PM PST by S-girl
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To: paulat
Berendt said he wasn't sure what the fish symbol is supposed to mean but said he thinks it is aimed at "people who claim to be pro-life but are for the death penalty."

Amazing how many people think that pro-life and pro-death penalty are contradictory positions. Can't they differentiate between an innocent baby and a criminal with a trial and conviction?

80 posted on 12/14/2005 10:00:19 PM PST by knuthom
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