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Disown your dad's denial of the Holocaust, Gibson told (Mel Gibson's dad not keen on Jews)
The Austrailian ^ | 12-08-05 | David Nason

Posted on 12/09/2005 11:54:29 AM PST by emiller

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To: Blue State Insurgent

When you say 16 guns do you mean small arms?


41 posted on 12/09/2005 1:00:25 PM PST by wideawake
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To: emiller
...has called on Australian actor-director Mel Gibson to publicly repudiate the Holocaust denial of his father Hutton Gibson...

Mel Gibson doesn't owe any explanations for his father's remarks, or anything else to this guy.

42 posted on 12/09/2005 1:01:47 PM PST by Recovering Hermit
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To: Sabramerican
For the simple minded:

Them=

1. Rafael Medoff
2. David Nason
3. Conservative-hating liberal media

Should not take five minutes of observing the Mel Gibson bating to figure that out.

43 posted on 12/09/2005 1:02:09 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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To: Sabramerican

Sounds like a great idea. When are you making it?


44 posted on 12/09/2005 1:03:46 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Right. LOL


45 posted on 12/09/2005 1:04:01 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: wideawake
Actually, look at number 8 on the map - it is two blocks from Saski Park and it was an engagement where the Jewish freedom fighters attempted to punch a hole in the Nazi cordon of the Ghetto.

I can't link to the interactive map, I posted it for the location of the park(s), which weren't in the ghetto. You could find it with a search at http://www.ushmm.org for Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. They footnote 8 as the site of the Grand Synagogue, also outside the ghetto, which the Nazis subsequently destroyed. Someone with more knowledge of the actions will have to fill you in on what might or might not have happened in Saski Park during the Ghetto (1943) uprising. It was the site of a major engagement in the August, 1944 Warsaw Uprising fought by the Polish underground. The two are frequently confused. And many of the positions of the Polish in 44 lay in the ruins of the Warsaw Ghetto from the year before.

46 posted on 12/09/2005 1:04:49 PM PST by SJackson (There's no such thing as too late, that's why they invented death. Walter Matthau)
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To: All

Why this now?

What is the point of this other than some form of PR whoring?

Gibson's father is very very old and no purpose will be served by this. Let him go in his own time and just let God judge him.


47 posted on 12/09/2005 1:05:04 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Sabramerican

Ok genius. Who do you think "them" is?


48 posted on 12/09/2005 1:05:59 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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To: big'ol_freeper

I think every one on this thread who used the plural "they" "their", et al, was referring to your list. LOL again.


49 posted on 12/09/2005 1:09:16 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: emiller
I don't know, the lamps made from human skin

Good god, not this &%^$ again..

50 posted on 12/09/2005 1:10:26 PM PST by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: Sabramerican

Glad you agree then.


51 posted on 12/09/2005 1:10:47 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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To: SJackson
Interesting. Thanks for the info.

As I recall from some article or other, the Nazis made sure to keep the Grand Synagogue just outside the ghetto wall to taunt the Jews - it was very beautiful and I'm sure the pride and joy of the community.

I guess they used it for secular purposes and then destroyed it later in retaliation for the uprising.

52 posted on 12/09/2005 1:12:37 PM PST by wideawake
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To: emiller

My mom has said some pretty off-the-wall stuff. If I ever became famous, I would hate for people to think her thoughts were mine. Mel Gibson and his dad are two different people, after all.


53 posted on 12/09/2005 1:15:30 PM PST by HungarianGypsy (`)
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To: wideawake
Yes. You didn't think I meant howitzers did you?
54 posted on 12/09/2005 1:42:26 PM PST by Blue State Insurgent (Shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter the remnants to the wind. Avenge JFK.)
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To: Alouette

"Now that's a form of Holocaust revisionism that nobody has seen before."

LOL! Well put!


55 posted on 12/09/2005 3:08:13 PM PST by jocon307
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To: BonnieJ
They don't have to carry their family's negative past/present with them, or their own either!

Yeah. For proof one need look no further than Robert "KKK" Byrd, Ted "The Swimmer" Kennedy, and Bill "Cigar" Clinton.

56 posted on 12/09/2005 3:12:17 PM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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DIANE SAWYER: Do you think people wondered if your father's views were your views on [The Holocaust]

MEL GIBSON: Their whole agenda here -- my detractors -- is to drive a wedge between me and my father -- and it's not going to happen. I love him, he's my father.

DS: And you will not speak publicly about him?

MG: I am tight with him. He's my father. Gotta leave it alone, Diane. Gotta leave it alone.

(From ABC's PrimeTime Live, February 16, 2004)


57 posted on 12/09/2005 3:34:54 PM PST by MikeD (We live in a world where babies are like velveteen rabbits that only become real if they are loved.)
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To: emiller
Who is Ralph Mendelson and why should we care?

Maybe this character should his time on the problem of Jews in the here and now instead of yapping about an actor's father.

I heard "Munich" is anti-jewish because Spielberg's father-in-law's 2nd cousin doesn't like Jews.
58 posted on 12/10/2005 8:17:10 AM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: wideawake
That is not the way it started out. The Jews were not allowed to live in Venice, but as merchants and moneylenders were permitted to visit from outside the city, from the island La Giudecca, for example. Eventually they were allowed to inhabit the worst part of Venice where the foundries were located. The word for foundries in Italian is getti.
59 posted on 12/10/2005 8:27:21 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Alouette; wideawake
Gibson's Con Artist Productions reportedly clinched the deal with a breathtaking pitch for a climactic "Braveheart-style" battle scene where thousands of Jewish and Nazi combatants rush at each other across an open field.

I think it was his attempt at trying to be sarcastic.

That said, I think a good rendition of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising could be a gripping movie if done right.

But it would be upsetting to the gun-control crowd. "Common citizens? Using a few common guns fighting off an army bent on their extermination? Ridiculous!"

60 posted on 12/10/2005 8:32:51 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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