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To: Fester Chugabrew
"Do you have any evidence for "self-awareness?"

Yes, do you? :)

"To declare God as forever outside the purview of science is an untestable proposition in and of itself, and therefore, by your own definition, not the work of science"

We've been over this road before. Science says NOTHING about a deity or deities. Propositions about deities, and the supernatural in general, cannot be tested. There, by definition, they are outside of science.

"Science does not declare what propositions will be forever untestable, unless it happens to be guided by a particular ideology."

If the proposition that a deity or deities exist becomes testable, then science may have something to say about it. Right now, it isn't testable, so what can science say other than nothing at this time?

"In your case the philosophical outlook is clear: atheism."

You assume too much.

"As such there is good reason to believe you will always interpret and explain the evidence according you your fundamental understanding of reality. It may or not be correct, but for you and those like you it is "science.""

When any evidence comes about to support the claim that a deity or deities exist, I will make a judgment. Right now, there isn't any, and to me, that makes the whole thing a dead issue. I don't bother myself with propositions that have no evidence.
91 posted on 12/09/2005 11:15:42 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Science says NOTHING about a deity or deities.

That is an atheistic definition of science.

93 posted on 12/09/2005 11:23:00 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

What is your evidence for self-awareness?


94 posted on 12/09/2005 11:24:39 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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