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To: Virginia-American
So either chimps and people share a common ancestor, which in turn shares an ancestor with gorillas, or some hypothetical designer made it look that way.

Obviously I am of the opinion that the latter holds true. If I could see some record, that is to say human writing, that comunicated a point in time when we were confused as to whether a biological entity was ape or human, then I might be inclined to consider the claims of evolutionary theory more seriously. As it is, the claims always come from bones and fossils.

As far as I know, humans have always been able to tell themselves apart from apes, and vice versa. And while I am aware certain humans attempt to mate with other critters, I hardly think they do so for the purpose of procreation, and I hardly think they have been successful, Helen Thomas notwithstanding.

295 posted on 12/09/2005 6:56:24 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
I said: Every endogenous retrovirus (ERV) found in both people and gorillas is also found in chimps. Every ERV found in both gorillas and chimps is also found in people.

You said: If I could see some record, that is to say human writing, that comunicated a point in time when we were confused as to whether a biological entity was ape or human, then I might be inclined to consider the claims of evolutionary theory more seriously. As it is, the claims always come from bones and fossils.

Written records from half a million years ago?! You know, as well as I do, that there are none from 10,000 years ago.

The fact remains, there are fossils which are hard to classify as human or non-human.

Surely, you've seen this?

BTW, why is the hypothetical designer restricted to designs that look as though evolution has occured? Such as the ERV pattern I referred to above? Or analogous patterns involving cows, whales and hippos.

Maybe it's possible to put together an ad-hoc case for there being identical details in the genomes of people and the other great apes. (I've seen the hypothetical designer compared to a programmer re-using code.)

But cows and hippos and whales?!

299 posted on 12/09/2005 7:17:58 PM PST by Virginia-American
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