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Theory of intelligent design making its way into Broward textbooks (Florida)
Sun-sentinel.com ^
| December 9, 2005
| Chris Kahn
Posted on 12/09/2005 3:55:11 AM PST by mlc9852
Broward County on Thursday narrowed its choices for high school Biology I textbooks to two finalists, both of which have been under scrutiny by Christian conservatives who want to change the way students learn about the origin of life.
Both have edited passages about evolution theory during the past few years after receiving complaints from the Discovery Institute. The think tank sponsors research on intelligent design, which argues life is so complicated, it must have been fashioned by a higher being. One of the books also has added a short section on creationism.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: crevolist; praisegod; scienceeducation; textbooks
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To: mlc9852
"If they found Noah's ark, would you believe in a world-wide flood? Depends on where they find it and if they can verify it is actually 'the' ark. There are a lot of other questions that would also have to be answered.
Smart money is betting it was a local flood, a much smaller boat and just the owner's livestock.
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posted on
12/09/2005 4:57:58 PM PST
by
b_sharp
(Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
To: ml1954
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posted on
12/09/2005 4:59:35 PM PST
by
mlc9852
To: furball4paws
Tell me something...this new species...it does look like a sunflower right? Same as its parents'?
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:01:40 PM PST
by
mdmathis6
(Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
To: mlc9852
Why shouldn't I take the Koran literally?
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:02:07 PM PST
by
ml1954
(NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
To: megatherium
They tried those experiments with fruit flies for more generations of fruit flies than there have ever been of primates in our world. They subjected them to everything in the world known to cause mutations and then recombined the mutants every possible way. All they ever got was fruit flies. Several of the scientists involved publically renounced evolution as a result.
To: b_sharp
A "reduction in certainty" is hardly the same thing as being "useless." Which do you propose? I hear over and over again that science is not interested in "proofs." If that's the case, then "supernatural" considerations may be allowed, however major or minor they may be.
. . . how do we convince ourselves it was honest run?
We do it all the time. The veracity of scientific endeavor does not consist in how we convince ourselves of things. We simply take what is at hand, observe it, predict it, record it, and explain it. Science has always found reality to be elusive. That's pretty much how it is with God, too.
would like to see a proposal from creationists for a methodology that would enable us to include the supernatural in science.
I would like to see a proposal from evolutionists that would enable us to distinguish the natural from the supernatural. As it is science dismisses the supernatural altogether and thinks it is free to represent objective reality. Semantically, everything that exists can be explained one way or the other.
To: ml1954
You are free to if you wish. A lot of people do.
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:03:06 PM PST
by
mlc9852
To: dread78645
The God-O-meter, you silly. The Scientologists have something similar, but better.
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:04:14 PM PST
by
tortoise
(All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
To: mlc9852
I did not say science cant seek to discover if God exists...
I am curious as to why you would want proof that God exists...that was the intent of my question...
I am content to believe in God, I dont need any proof...
If something exists, why cant it be discovered?...Why doesnt it occur to you, that God in His existence, chooses not to be discovered by the means which earthly man has at his disposal...that we must take His existence on faith..
To: mlc9852
Your permission is not required.
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:06:21 PM PST
by
ml1954
(NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
To: andysandmikesmom
I believe in God by faith. But it would be nice to show atheists something that would prove God exists.
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:06:55 PM PST
by
mlc9852
To: mlc9852
OK then. I'll assume your verson of truth, at least in this context, is that the Bible is innerrent, literal and complete. If this is the case, the answer to your question is no. There are far too many inconsistencies between the Bible and the geological record to accept the Bible as a perfect record of a world wide flood event.
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:08:11 PM PST
by
b_sharp
(Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
To: b_sharp
Challenge: I would like to see a proposal from creationists for a methodology that would enable us to include the supernatural in science. How about we use the ID approach: "I don't understand how this could be natural, therefore it is obviously and conclusively supernatural. Next!"
To: tortoise
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:09:39 PM PST
by
PatrickHenry
(Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, common scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
To: tortoise
The Scientologists have something similar, but better. So -- XenuDidit?
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:10:17 PM PST
by
dread78645
(Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
To: Madeleine Ward
I just don't get it. If you evolutionists are so darn certain, why are you so scared of intelligent design. We're scared of ignorance on the march, proudly waving it's banner...
To: b_sharp
Well, I appreciate your honest opinion.
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:11:51 PM PST
by
mlc9852
To: RogueIsland
When you say "natural", exactly what do you mean?
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:12:32 PM PST
by
mlc9852
To: dmz
Let's face it, in however many threads about evolution there have been, does anyone think someone has changed their opinion on the topic?
Of course not! And nobody is ever going to have their opinion changed once it deteriorates into name calling. And just for the record, I'm not at all saying that the evos are doing it all. I've been embarrassed by some of what has come out of the creation camp. I know that baiting goes on from both sides, too.
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:13:03 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: blowfish
So if someone disagrees with you, they're ignorant?
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posted on
12/09/2005 5:13:21 PM PST
by
mlc9852
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