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Finding #4--the left has found a possible way to chip away at the successful alliance between the GOP and religious conservatives.

It's not the left that's attacking science. It's troglodyte "conservative" school board members in Dover Pa, and their close relatives in Kansas.

The "left" isn't doing anything but laughing at a small subset of conservatives who are so wound up in their religion that they're willing to torpedo the very political organization that can actually do a few things they want (like oppose abortion, etc.).

These people are the same kind of idiots as the "gay marrage" idiots in the Dem party. Willing to torpedo their political power over a silly issue of no real importance.

You know, science is a great tool, but it's hardly a god (small or large G, take your pick). Even though these are just keyboards clicking away, I imagine I hear a sonorous awe in your i-voice when the word "science" is spoken. And I am well-compensated by many things scientific and value it highly--I also know that it's no answer to everything and confers no Holy Orders from the House of Reason.

Just a few days ago a scientist in South Korea got slapped for his overreaching and possible fraud concerning embryo and stem cell research. Human beings, even scientists, are subject to human failings.

There's greed and vanity and deceit in science, because it is a human enterprise. All this Truth and Reason and Knowledge is great, but there's the graft at the universities (look at tuition) and exaggeration and posturing...Life.

The reason I speak sharply about libertarians is that I still have my "Taxation is Theft" button in my junk drawer. I still think taxation is theft, it's just that I've learned that when you're dealing with people....you have to deal--the libertarian mindset is that all they have to say is "principal" and "reason" and that's all she wrote. It is, if you're willing to lose. And I left libertarianism behind very quickly, and all my Ayn Rand rants, when I figured out that they bring a "loser gene" to the party.

Religious conservatives, OTOH, have brought winning to the party. The exact time the religious conservatives joined forces with the GOP is when the GOP started winning.

That's why the left would love to do anything it could to chip away at the alliance.

Are they here, in FR, sowing discord?

...The "left" isn't doing anything but laughing at a small subset of conservatives ...

My paranoia tells me that the left is funding the Discovery Institute. Think about it.

The America-haters can acheive two goals at once: 1) splitting the GOP and thereby gaining political power, and 2) getting non-science into science classes. Goal 2) will lead to putting even more Gaiaism (Eath-worship) into science class (under the guise of "environmental studies", industrial (mainly US) global warming, etc.)

This wll lead to an ever more ignorant, easily-led population, IMO the real long-term goal.

After all, if it's OK to teach thinly-veiled Biblical/Koranic creationism as though it were science, why not teach the Gaia hypothesis (the biosphere is a single lving organism) as well? Why not teach Earth-worship as well?

Anyone else see any irony in using the Christian and Muslim creationists as a wedge to eventually allow Earth worship into school?