"I'm still waiting for you show me something that says 'The Bush I Admnistration had said to turn off the spigot'?"
See my second to last post - "Wilson was surprised that spring to hear that the [BUSH I] administration was not putting in a request for more money. [was turning off the spigot] There had been meetings in Wilson's office and talks with Judge William Webster, the new director of Central Intelligence, about the coming year's budget, but the Agency was no longer of a single mind. The Bush administration, however, wanted out of this game [Wanted to Turn Off the Spigot] -- so the CIA's seventh floor had no choice but to reflect the opinion of their masters in the White House. "
Are all those "Mujahadeen" that you listed Afgani Mujahadeen that were fighting the Soviets?
If so you are right about Murtha being a tratior. But then so was the Reagan administration since it helped them fight the Soviets too. I can't buy that. The Afgani Mujahadeen that Murtha aided did not capture the US hostages Iran.
How bad was Murtha involved in Abscam? I didn't see him listed as "convicted" on your link, unlike the others.
This Abscam thing really does stink though. Probably Murtha was dirty on it and should have been run out of the House. But that still doesn't make him a traitor.
I saw murtha tonight on Fox being grilled by Kasich.
Kasich laid it right on him - why do you want to help Zarkawi? He just keeps saying the Iraqis are ready to take care of themselves, when it's obvious they're not. He wants our troops off to Kuwait and Okinawa.
What is his motivation?
See my second to last post - "Wilson was surprised that spring to hear that the [BUSH I] administration was not putting in a request for more money. [was turning off the spigot] There had been meetings in Wilson's office and talks with Judge William Webster, the new director of Central Intelligence, about the coming year's budget, but the Agency was no longer of a single mind. The Bush administration, however, wanted out of this game [Wanted to Turn Off the Spigot] -- so the CIA's seventh floor had no choice but to reflect the opinion of their masters in the White House."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1489385/posts
My Enemy's Enemy by George Crile
Yes. I ignored it the first time because you took that quote after the Soviet/Afghanistan conflict was over. Money was already stolen. You are pulling text and twisting to create an impression that is not there.
>>>Are all those "Mujahadeen" that you listed Afgani Mujahadeen that were fighting the Soviets?
Mujahadeen are not country based. They are cultural cause based. Militant Islam answers to an Arab Nation. Not a country.
>>How bad was Murtha involved in Abscam? I didn't see him listed as "convicted" on your link, unlike the others.
From:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1489385/posts?page=2#2
O'Neill put Wilson on the Ethics Committee to save Murtha, which he did. In return, O'Neill assigned Wilson to the defense appropriations subcommittee and made him a life member of the governing board of the John F. Kennedy Performing Arts Center, where he delighted in taking his young dates.
>>>But that still doesn't make him a traitor.
I believe this was our original discussion. Traitor is aiding enemies of the State. I was trying to show he did with assisting in arming Militant Islam.