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I've been reluctant to use the word treason, but I just don't what else to call it anymore.
1 posted on 12/08/2005 7:56:08 PM PST by smoothsailing
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Is It Treason Yet?
GOP USA ^ | 12-09-05 | Joe Mariani - Commentary




Lifelong Independent Voter AND a Viet Nam Vet
helping the Republican Party, again,
just like on Nov 2 2004 PING





There is no need to impeach Hanoi Kerry from the US Senate

He is there illegally!

WAKEUP AMERICA!

For those who "forgot" what Hanoi Kerry
did in the past read on and learn the truth.

Hanoi Kerry was still a USNR officer while he:
gave false hearsay testimony to Congress
negotiated with the enemy
helped the US lose a war
abetted in the deaths of millions
created a hostile environment for all servicemen

Why is Kerry still in the US Senate?
This is in violation of
U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3 (1868)

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress,
or elector of President and Vice President,
or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States,
or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath,
as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States,
or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer
of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States,
shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same,

or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxiv.html




The FBI has proof of his giving aid and comfort to the enemies

Hanoi Kerry Timeline of a traitor
includes FBI files

May 1970
Kerry and Julia traveled to Paris, France and met with Madame Nguyen Thi Binh, the Foreign Minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam (PRG), the political wing of the Vietcong, and other Viet Cong and Communist Vietnamese representatives to the Paris peace talks, a trip he now calls a "fact-finding" mission.

(U.S. code 18 U.S.C. 953, declares it illegal for a U.S. citizen to go abroad and negotiate with a foreign power.)

http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html




a) A person charged with absence without leave or missing movement in time of war,

or with any offense punishable by death,

may be tried at any time without limitation.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm#*%20843.%20ART.%2043.%20STATUTE%20OF%20LIMITATIONS




904. ART. 104. AIDING THE ENEMY

Any person who--

(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or

(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or [protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly;
shall suffer death
or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.

http://www.military-network.com/main_ucmj/SUBCHAPTERX.html#904.104


62 posted on 12/08/2005 9:15:16 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Be wary of the "Move On FReepers" who scream and howl "Move On Tonk, Get Over It")
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To: smoothsailing

It's treason.


66 posted on 12/08/2005 9:20:53 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Kerry/Dean Democrats preach lies to cowards, not truth to power.)
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To: smoothsailing
Murtha cleared the path, but Dean and Kerry crossed the line with their most recent comments. Treason is certainly what I would call it, what else can one say, other than "TRAITOR"!?
70 posted on 12/08/2005 9:23:01 PM PST by Richard Axtell (We are approaching the Abyss, let's not let them steer us over the edge...)
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Sure makes ya wonder when the AG gets off his ass and starts doing his job and starts leveling charges at all the a'holes in government and the streets who are no friends of this nation but operate openly to provide aid and comfort to our sworn enemies.

In case anyone hasn't noticed, we are at war.

It really makes you wonder if he and others in high offices can see the threats they present to our survival.


72 posted on 12/08/2005 9:23:09 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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It's a shame that W isn't as great a President as Lincoln was. I give you Lincoln's words on the subject: "Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged." He backed it up, too.

Article 3 Section 3 also includes the word "adhere". The question of if they are providing "aid and comfort" is moot, because they certainly are "adhering" to America's enemies.

If these people had been around during WWII and there had been a Republican in office, they'd be advocating "strategic redeployment" of our troops out of North Africa during Operation Torch. They'd be pointing to US casualties at Kasserine Pass as being too high a price to pay for oil, and they'd be screaming about how Tunesia had never attacked us.


79 posted on 12/08/2005 9:28:40 PM PST by VaGunGuy
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To: smoothsailing
I want to help too: It's called:

TREASON

84 posted on 12/08/2005 9:31:03 PM PST by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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To: smoothsailing
No...it's not treason.

But the Democratic Leadership DOES remind me of watching the chimps at the zoo...slinging shit everywhere...and rolling around in it....and even smearing it on their faces.

redrock

100 posted on 12/08/2005 9:55:46 PM PST by redrock (Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. --Will Rogers)
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He nailed it in that article

Sending this one out in email


121 posted on 12/08/2005 10:13:34 PM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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Treason, sedition, evil...it's all the same to me. Good post, smoothsailing. :)


132 posted on 12/08/2005 10:22:10 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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In only a technical way, I believe that it may not be legally treason, because the congresscritters have not passed a "Declaration of War". In every other commonsense way, it truly IS Treason. Please, veterans, remember your oath. "All enemies, domestic and foreign". Took mine in Aug, 1964.


136 posted on 12/08/2005 10:24:15 PM PST by de Buillion (Close the bases, and bring our troops home from California!)
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Yes.


158 posted on 12/08/2005 10:46:18 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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There's actually very little difference between the position of the most Freepers and most Democrats regarding the war. Both favor a traditional American war ending, unconditional surrender. They only disagree on which side should surrender.

It's a shame we can't have a phased double surrender. First let just the libs surrender to the jihadists. Let them get the full Sharia treatment. Then have the jihadists surrender to the rest of us. We'd then have grounds to treat them mercifully.

166 posted on 12/08/2005 11:47:17 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer
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"Is It Treason Yet?"

Yes, it was always treason! Americans don't want to see it for what it is. It's "Falcon and the Snowman" or a variation on that theme, to be picked up by Hollywood, to be adored in a Michael Moore movie, to be prettier than CODE PINK... loserville, man!
167 posted on 12/09/2005 12:08:35 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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If our Congress Critters would actually make a formal declaration of war it would be treason. Without it treason would be a difficult charge to prove. WW II was the last time we had a declared war. The Korean War, Viet Nam War and now the Iraqi War were undeclared – and treason was rampant and not prosecuted.


174 posted on 12/09/2005 3:09:32 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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I've been reluctant to use the word treason, but I just don't what else to call it anymore

An opinion shared, apparently, by President Bush and Republican et als. . .

Truth is. . .it has been 'treason' for a long time now. . .and I absolutely do hope that this essay expresses the sentiments and beliefs of GOPUSA and of the whomevers left in our Congress that has the fortitude for genuine patriotism and the responsibility that their elected office demands.

175 posted on 12/09/2005 3:18:06 AM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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I don't think it's treason, it's better called wannabe treason.

The charge of treason is hedged about by Constitutional language, and for good reason. It was a principal weapon in the hands of the King to deal with his enemies, and in 1648-9 it was used by Parliament to kill the King.

The essence of a treason charge is the aid or comfort given to the "enemies of the United States". It's my view that only the People of the United States, acting through their representatives in Congress assembled, can define their "enemies", and the only way they can do that is to use the power granted to them in Article One, section 8 to declare war on them.

Any other construction enables the commander-in-chief (who will not always be GWB) to turn someone or something into an "enemy of the United States" through his own military powers, and that opens up the vista of treason prosecutions which the founders never envisioned.

It's yet another reason that Congress' abandonment of OUR (not their) war power is so bad.

If the People of the United States had declared war on the al Qaeda organization and Iraq, Michael Moore would be in prison right now.

It's a shame that our representatives failed to do so.

176 posted on 12/09/2005 3:19:03 AM PST by Jim Noble (Non, je ne regrette rien)
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"Treason doth not prosper, for what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."


190 posted on 12/09/2005 4:18:01 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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As Rush says all the time. What's good for the democrats is bad for the country and what's good for the country is bad for the democrats. The democrats will stoop to any depth to regain power including rooting for the enemy.


192 posted on 12/09/2005 4:26:48 AM PST by Buffettfan
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You damn betcha it's treason!

It's time to reinstitute the death penalty for it too and have a few public hangings for it.

195 posted on 12/09/2005 4:55:13 AM PST by TigersEye (Peace had a chance!)
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It is treason. And I think the Dems are "outting" themselves, perfectly. They've been given a long rope by which to hang themselves. And they are. And Repubs doing a "bloodless" coup. We don't behead people in the US. The Dems support suicide. They are doing it to themselves, and with a glad hand from compassionate conservatism. Hot coals on the heads.


200 posted on 12/09/2005 5:17:08 AM PST by Alia
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