Is It Treason Yet?

GOP USA ^ | 12-09-05 | Joe Mariani - Commentary

[smoothsailing]

WE WILL WIN BECAUSE WE MUST WIN.

As for Hanoi John, he needs to live in that Marine brig until he begs for the gallows.

Thanks again Tonk, I hope this thread keeps going through the Iraq election.

Now, I gotta get some sleep.

NEVER FORGET

[ohioWfan]

I THANK you, sir............and my SON thanks you too!

He is your brother, and I am deeply moved that you honor him with your persistence and will.

I may be alone in this, but I believe that Kerry's "our troops are TERRORIZING women and children" crap is going to finally be this traitor's undoing.

These are different times than the '60's. I think he has sounded his own death knell.

[de Buillion]

"I may be alone in this, but I believe that Kerry's "our troops are TERRORIZING women and children" crap is going to finally be this traitor's undoing. "

You are not alone- I believe that this will hurt him, and by association, many other traitors.

[Pajamajan]

"Treason has to be redefined in the context of todays world situation and technologies.

The seditious blatherings of Kerry, Dean, Pelosi, et. al. go directly from their mouths to the ears of the enemy."

At the very least- US representatives should be mindful of this before shooting off their mouths.

[ohioWfan]

I am praying that this is the beginning of a massive collapse of the traitorous left.

I hope these words of jFk continue to be replayed over and over again, so that every American hears him, in his own voice, calling our brave men and women in uniform terrorists.

I pray we are both right!

[JohnBovenmyer]

There's actually very little difference between the position of the most Freepers and most Democrats regarding the war. Both favor a traditional American war ending, unconditional surrender. They only disagree on which side should surrender.

It's a shame we can't have a phased double surrender. First let just the libs surrender to the jihadists. Let them get the full Sharia treatment. Then have the jihadists surrender to the rest of us. We'd then have grounds to treat them mercifully.

[Blind Eye Jones]

"Is It Treason Yet?"

Yes, it was always treason! Americans don't want to see it for what it is. It's "Falcon and the Snowman" or a variation on that theme, to be picked up by Hollywood, to be adored in a Michael Moore movie, to be prettier than CODE PINK... loserville, man!

[Smokin' Joe]

Can't give 'em a cigarette--they might die of cancer, don'tcha know. Cruel and unusual an' all that.

...AND, the second hand smoke!

Oh, the humanity!

(/sarc)

Blindfold and wall work, though, maybe earplugs, (don't want them hearing impaired, now)...

[ZULU]

Tolerance for Treason started during the reign of LBJ and Viet Nam.

It has grown and trhived, thanks to cowardly politicians and venomous judges.

[Caipirabob]

Oh man, yer killin' me! ROTFL!

[E.G.C.]

BTTT

[E.G.C.]

BTTT

[E.G.C.]

BTTT

[R. Scott]

If our Congress Critters would actually make a formal declaration of war it would be treason. Without it treason would be a difficult charge to prove. WW II was the last time we had a declared war. The Korean War, Viet Nam War and now the Iraqi War were undeclared – and treason was rampant and not prosecuted.

[cricket]

I've been reluctant to use the word treason, but I just don't what else to call it anymore

An opinion shared, apparently, by President Bush and Republican et als. . .

Truth is. . .it has been 'treason' for a long time now. . .and I absolutely do hope that this essay expresses the sentiments and beliefs of GOPUSA and of the whomevers left in our Congress that has the fortitude for genuine patriotism and the responsibility that their elected office demands.

[Jim Noble]

I don't think it's treason, it's better called wannabe treason.

The charge of treason is hedged about by Constitutional language, and for good reason. It was a principal weapon in the hands of the King to deal with his enemies, and in 1648-9 it was used by Parliament to kill the King.

The essence of a treason charge is the aid or comfort given to the "enemies of the United States". It's my view that only the People of the United States, acting through their representatives in Congress assembled, can define their "enemies", and the only way they can do that is to use the power granted to them in Article One, section 8 to declare war on them.

Any other construction enables the commander-in-chief (who will not always be GWB) to turn someone or something into an "enemy of the United States" through his own military powers, and that opens up the vista of treason prosecutions which the founders never envisioned.

It's yet another reason that Congress' abandonment of OUR (not their) war power is so bad.

If the People of the United States had declared war on the al Qaeda organization and Iraq, Michael Moore would be in prison right now.

It's a shame that our representatives failed to do so.

[Modok]

First comes spine then comes charges.

[Jim Noble]

(a) Whoever, when the United States is at war, willfully makes or conveys false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States or to promote the success of its enemies

The United States is not "at war". although God knows we should be.

The war powers of the United States are virtually without limit. If you study the assumption of power by the executive branch from December 8, 1941 until mid-January, 1942, you would realize that after about 1/20/42 we had a completely different government, different in nature, from the one that existed on December 6, 1941. All with these few little words:

"the President is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire naval and military forces of the United States and the resources of the Government to carry on war against the Imperial Government of Japan; and, to bring the conflict to a successful termination, all of the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United States".

All the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United States.

THAT is what we are missing in Iraq, and it is also what we were missing in SVN and Korea.

[Jim Noble]

The Korean War, Viet Nam War and now the Iraqi War were undeclared – and treason was rampant and not prosecuted.

Only Congress can identify the "enemies of the United States", and for very good reason.

There's three choices, as I see it.

You and Jim Robinson are arrested for treason by AG Gorelick, and charged with giving aid and comfort to Free Republic, an enemy of the United States.

Your defense is that FR is NOT an enemy of the United States.

Who has the right to decide?

A) Commander-in-Chief HRC?

B) DC jury?

C) The people of the United States through their representatives in Congress assembled?

[Jim Noble]

or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

Please point me to the Act of Congress which made the government and armed forces of the DRVN "enemies of the United States".

There is no such Act of Congress.

The fact that Congress, then and now, is composed of cowards and poltroons is insufficient in my judgement to confer the power to work a charge of treason on the President.