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1 posted on 12/08/2005 8:55:01 AM PST by JTN
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Good guys win, but the feds say the "Papers please" policy will continue.


2 posted on 12/08/2005 8:56:29 AM PST by JTN ("We must win the War on Drugs by 2003." - Dennis Hastert, Feb. 25 1999)
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Hopefully she now gets it and will show ID next time...


3 posted on 12/08/2005 8:59:55 AM PST by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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It's for The Children.


5 posted on 12/08/2005 9:04:25 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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It sounds like the prosecutor looked for a reason to let her off the hook this time. Sensible enough.

But it you want to travel through a federal facility you have to play by their rules.

I don't like the "your papers please" aspect of this, however, it is a federal facility. We don't want to invite Johnny Jihad onto the property.

Now that the woman knows the rules, and a sign is posted, she needs to either go along or find a different way to work.

Nobody is going to prevail in getting the feds to allow anyone on their property under any rules except the ones the feds put up.


7 posted on 12/08/2005 9:05:15 AM PST by Pylot
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Simple answer, shut down the route. Let the buses come in but end the through route and make the facility the end of the line, thus giving good reason to check everyone who enters.

Let everyone else take a longer way around.

Problem solved!

52 posted on 12/08/2005 9:33:58 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (I will not support evil just because "It's the Law.")
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If there is a legitimate need to secure the facility, then public buses need to be rerouted so that they don't enter the perimeter.

The claim that security is so important that they need to pester people with ID checks, but also so trivial that they can allow public buses to run through the grounds, is absurd sophistry.

63 posted on 12/08/2005 9:41:57 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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"Looking at that ID, having that initial contact with an individual, does allow us to know that that person is who they say they are," she said.

Asked how officers know a person's ID is genuine, she said, "We have trained professionals doing that work."

Who are you?

This is a bunch of crap! You can call yourself by any name you wish. In some sections of Los Angeles you can even get an official Drivers License with your chosen name boldly displayed thereon. The volume of the unofficial distribution of these real documents often exceeds that of the state printing office. If you get one, just be sure that you do not try to renew it at the DMV when it expires. The DMV in California is totally messed up when it comes to document control.

How do I know? Several years ago I presented myself for examination prior to renewing my license. This was during the time when they were installing the new automatic photo system. For some reason they chose to have me come in several weeks later to redo the photo. That triggered an avalanche of licenses. before it was over and without any help from me, I received a total of 5 licenses. Each had the same serial number, all had different pictures and three had my last name spelled different.

I really have to take exception to this BS of depending upon a piece of paper to tell someone else who I am.

Semper Fi

155 posted on 12/08/2005 11:05:06 AM PST by An Old Man (USMC 1956 1960)
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Thanks for the ping. Read the whole thread.

I continue to be amazed at the number of people on a conservative news forum who don't realize that terrorists are laughing at us abandoning our own (former) principles in order to "protect" ourselves against them.

To hell with it.

I would rather fight terrorists hand-to-hand than my own government.

Nothing about passing through an area containing a bunch of USDA, IRS, BIA, SSA, DEA, alphabetus infinitum employees and office buildings warrants this silliness.

I hope 500 people per day refuse to do this, but I know they will not. The terrorists have won (and they're not who most people think they are).

216 posted on 12/08/2005 3:53:33 PM PST by elkfersupper
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