Posted on 12/07/2005 11:42:20 PM PST by CarrotAndStick
BEIJING, DECEMBER 7: Unlike India. Beijing’s official policy and industry incentives mean jackpot for those who want to return
For the last 25 years, many of the best and brightest in India and China have left for western shores in the belief that study and work abroad offer greater opportunities.
However, unlike India which has been wringing its hands over this ‘‘brain drain’’, the Chinese have systematically encouraged their best to acquire valuable expertise abroad—and then wooed them back to set up businesses or work in top government posts. Often, at the expense of western universities.
Apart from direct incentives, the Chinese have succeeded in creating a dynamic macro-economic environment to attract students back.
Overseas-educated researchers are playing a predominant role in China’s prestigous scientific projects, such as the space programme and human genome mapping. Returnees have founded nearly all the country’s high-tech companies listed on NASDAQ.
These returnees include Charles Zhang, founder and CEO of Sohu.com, China’s premier online brand and Internet portal; Edward Tian, head of China Netcom, the country’s second-largest fixed-line carrier; Robin Li, CEO of Baidu, the leading Chinese language search engine.
‘‘Returnees are a force to reckon with in every significant area,’’ says Jeff Huang, an entrepreneur who spent more than 10 years in the US before setting up his own cross-border merger and acquisitions advisory firm, Chisurf Ltd, in Beijing.
‘‘All major financial institutions, like the central bank and the securities regulatory commission, are full of overseas educated personnel,’’ he says, adding, ‘‘These people have practical experience in the US and they come back to try and shape the future system and policy here from within, bringing best practices with them.’’
Besides, Chinese universities are spending vast sums wooing academics with foreign PhDs. According to Professor Feng Lu of Beijing University’s prestigious China Centre for Economic Research (CCER), salaries for returnee economists range from $30,000-50,000 per annum, excluding housing and other perks. A foreign PHD is a minimum qualification for a job at CCER. Professor Lu says that despite this stringent requirement there are 10-15 applicants, on an average, for every opening.
Domestic firms and the scores of MNCs that have flooded the country are constantly on the lookout for Chinese executives with MBAs from the best business schools abroad.
According to Ana Westlake, a Beijing-based HR consultant, executives with foreign degrees and work experience can expect to be paid two to three times more than colleagues with a domestic education.
The policy of encouraging Chinese students to go abroad was instituted by Deng Xiaoping who believed that if even a small percentage returned, it would benefit the country.
However, in the 1980s, only a trickle of students returned. An embarrassed Ministry of Educating (MOE) then began to advocate a policy reversal till the then general secretary of the Party, Zhao Ziyang, stressed on continuing to ‘‘store brain power overseas’’. By the late 80s, Chinese cities began to compete with each other to recruit overseas-educated talent, offering tax incentives, preferential business loans, free office space, better housing and faster promotions. Currently, over 110 different kinds of special zones and industrial parks for such ‘‘returnees’’ have been established, according to the Chinese MOE website. Over 6,000 enterprises are located in these parks, employing more than 15,000 returnees.
Government policy aimed to attract back top-class scientists, economists and entrepreneurs, particularly those in hi-tech areas. According to Xinhua, the official news agency, all 23 national chief scientists in China are returnees.
Indian students tend to visit India atleast once in between their study course in the US, unlike most Chinese students, who try their best to stay back for as long as possible, ostensibly out of fear of not being allowed bact into the US.
Yes, we know.
It's called "Espionage".
Only if the tuition is funded by the government. Otherwise, no.
It's called "Espionage".
This is how technology spreads throughout the world to improve the living standard of people everywhere. To suggest something under handed has taken place is not fair to the Chinese. This has been happening for years not just with China, but with many other countries as well, from Europe to the rest of Asia.
Don't forget the other avenue in which technology arrives in China: Foreign corporations seeking profit. I would bet that is the where the lion's share of high tech knowledge enter China.
Yeah, if you don't come back with the knowledge and information you have acquired, your family get to spend the rest of their lives in a work camp or prison.
As in the cases of the Russian fission and fusion bombs, then followed by the French, Israelis, Chinese, India..Pakistan..
Eventually it will improve the living standard of people everywhere-When the World has only a billion people to support.
Eventually it will improve the living standard of people everywhere-When the World has only a billion people to support.
Fission and fusion technology used for destructive purpose is carefully guarded. However, nuclear fission technology for commercial reactors is readily taught in school and to foreign students. US corporations have shared commercial reactor know how to a host of countries (S. Korea, Taiwan, Japan, etc.). So, I think you are comparing apples and oranges.
You realize you are betting your life it is in the collapsed Soviet Union...Where everything is for sale.
However, nuclear fission technology for commercial reactors is readily taught in school and to foreign students. US corporations have shared commercial reactor know how to a host of countries (S. Korea, Taiwan, Japan, etc.). So, I think you are comparing apples and oranges.
No, not really. Cortlands to Granny Smiths, at the worst.
In addition to known spy cases such as the Rosenbergs and Klaus Fuchs, and similar spies involved in the hydrogen programs, security breaches at Argonne, LLNL, etc. are well-known.
Yes, anyone can take Nuclear engineering (Even Jimmy Carter), and buy textbooks now. I have a copy of "Reactor Physics", MIT Press, Goodjohn and Pomraning , and a copy of "Basic Nuclear Engneering", Foster and Wright, Allen&Bacon right here on my bookshelf in front of me. But they are the neccesary first steps, covering the fundamentals needed to convert Natural uranium into plutonium. All one need do is get by the initial tedium of isotopic separation to get the thing going, and design it as a breeder or fast breeder, and they are essentially in the weapons business.
Note that ALL the countries we are concerned over are at this stage.
So, where is the line drawn differentiating "Peaceful" uses from Weapons uses, since they all start at the construction of a critical reactor? There is no peaceful use for High Enriched Uranium, or purified plutonium, as high enrichments are not needed for power reactors.. As soon as we see a country on that track, all arguments and excuses for "Peaceful uses" evaporate.
Something Very Bad happened to the Security Agencies in the last decade or two. The first was the PC elimination of the "Designated Countries List". Another was the loosening of AT/NOFORN export restrictions.
Someone is out of their mind, if you ask me, and we are all going to pay for it in a little while. The only comfort I find in examing the details is the prevailing winds direction where I live relative to some cities and military installations.
We have "Let the Genie out of the Bottle".
My original comment was in regards to technology available from the US.
No, not really. Cortlands to Granny Smiths, at the worst.
Well, how about Internet portal technology to nuclear weapons? The original thread was about technology acquired which resulted in foreign students starting internet portals listed on NASDAQ. I used the nuclear example because the issue of weapons was brought up. I thought it was a big leap from internet portals to weapons, so my argument was that the weapons themselves were closely guarded, but that fission technology for power generation was shared. So technology for internel portals has even greater availability than fission technology for power generation.
In addition to known spy cases such as the Rosenbergs and Klaus Fuchs, and similar spies involved in the hydrogen programs, security breaches at Argonne, LLNL, etc. are well-known.
Once again, lets not mix the two. Lets not accuse someone of being a serial killer when they are pulled over for speeding. Many of the people who come into America and work in tech corporations work for civilian corporations with technology for civilian use. You have to be an AMERICAN CITIZEN in order to have access to military related technology.
Yes, anyone can take Nuclear engineering (Even Jimmy Carter), and buy textbooks now. I have a copy of "Reactor Physics", MIT Press, Goodjohn and Pomraning , and a copy of "Basic Nuclear Engneering", Foster and Wright, Allen&Bacon right here on my bookshelf in front of me. But they are the neccesary first steps, covering the fundamentals needed to convert Natural uranium into plutonium. All one need do is get by the initial tedium of isotopic separation to get the thing going, and design it as a breeder or fast breeder, and they are essentially in the weapons business.
Yes, I know.
So, where is the line drawn differentiating "Peaceful" uses from Weapons uses, since they all start at the construction of a critical reactor? There is no peaceful use for High Enriched Uranium, or purified plutonium, as high enrichments are not needed for power reactors.. As soon as we see a country on that track, all arguments and excuses for "Peaceful uses" evaporate.
No, you're right, there isn't any peaceful use for high enriched uranium.
We have "Let the Genie out of the Bottle".
Well, I'm not sure what you mean by the "Genie". If you are talking specifically about nuclear weapons, that is true. But if you are talking high tech products that make our life easier, I wouldn't call it a "Genie". The primary way people around the globe can make life better for themselves, is through the acquisition of technology. Whether it be in manufacturing, transporation, or information. No matter where you are in the world, or who you are, or what your occupation, there are only 24 hrs in a day. And a person can only work so many hours in that day. In the end, what gives people the high standard of living is making the most value for every hour worked. Technology does that. To equate all learning that make life better for everyone on the globe to the acquisition of nuclear weapons is unfair to those trying to better themselves.
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