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Senator Clinton, in Pander Mode
NY Times ^ | December 7, 2005 | NY Times Editorial Board

Posted on 12/07/2005 8:32:56 PM PST by neverdem

Hillary Clinton is co-sponsoring a bill to criminalize the burning of the American flag. Her supporters would characterize this as an attempt to find a middle way between those who believe that flag-burning is constitutionally protected free speech and those who want to ban it, even if it takes a constitutional amendment. Unfortunately, it looks to us more like a simple attempt to have it both ways.

Senator Clinton says she opposes a constitutional amendment to outlaw flag-burning. In 1989, the Supreme Court ruled that flag-burning was protected by the First Amendment. But her bill, which is sponsored by Senator Robert Bennett, Republican of Utah, is clearly intended to put the issue back before the current, more conservative, Supreme Court in hopes of getting a turnaround.

It's hard to see this as anything but pandering - there certainly isn't any urgent need to resolve the issue. Flag-burning hasn't been in fashion since college students used slide rules in math class and went to pay phones at the student union to call their friends. Even then, it was a rarity that certainly never put the nation's security in peril.

The bill attempts to equate flag-burning with cross-burning, which the Supreme Court, in a sensible and carefully considered 2003 decision, said could be prosecuted under certain circumstances as a violation of civil rights law. It's a ridiculous comparison. Burning a cross is a unique act because of its inextricable connection to the Ku Klux Klan and to anti-black violence and intimidation. A black American who wakes up to see a cross burning on the front lawn has every right to feel personally, and physically, threatened. Flag-burning has no such history. It has, in fact, no history of being directed against any target but the government.

Mrs. Clinton says her current position grew...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New York
KEYWORDS: americanlegion; clinton; emblems; flagburning; flags; freedomofexpression; freedomofspeech; hillary2008; hillaryrodhamclinton; insignia; panderbear
out of BS.
1 posted on 12/07/2005 8:32:57 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Oh what a tangled web we weave when we triangulate to deceive.


2 posted on 12/07/2005 8:47:08 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: neverdem

Hillary triangulating and the Slimes disapprove.


3 posted on 12/07/2005 8:52:58 PM PST by demlosers
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To: neverdem
We can't indite and convict of treason let alone sedition..
And she worried about the American flag.. go figure..
Nah dont go.. Better lower the bar to indite for treason..
and make sedition illegal.. currently it is not..

I would be surpise if espionage could be indited with THIS congress..

4 posted on 12/07/2005 8:53:45 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: neverdem

Triangulation leading to strangulation.


5 posted on 12/07/2005 8:54:03 PM PST by msnimje (Everyday there is a new example of the Democrats "Culture of Dementia")
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To: neverdem

The primary "rule of thumb":

Bill is bad, Hillary is EVIL.

Who in their right mind can't see through this?


6 posted on 12/07/2005 8:56:25 PM PST by ishabibble
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To: neverdem

Of course, the clintons are a couple of pander bears.


7 posted on 12/07/2005 9:06:08 PM PST by punster
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To: neverdem

Hillary is getting desperate.


8 posted on 12/07/2005 9:10:18 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: ishabibble
If I recall even Scalia said flag burning was protected free speech .
9 posted on 12/07/2005 9:11:12 PM PST by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: neverdem

Pooah wittle Hillawy, which powitical bed will be Just Wight???


10 posted on 12/07/2005 9:13:41 PM PST by wigswest
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To: newfarm4000n
"If I recall even Scalia said flag burning was protected free speech ."

As do I. Lousy, hate-filled, perhaps, but free speech.

11 posted on 12/07/2005 9:14:16 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: newfarm4000n

Flag burning really isn't the issue. Wooing and appeasing gullible conservatives/Christians/America lovers is the issue.

Remember: Bill is bad, Hillary is EVIL.


12 posted on 12/07/2005 9:17:18 PM PST by ishabibble
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To: neverdem

The NY Times had an editorial against Hillary and her actions? I think I am going to faint!


13 posted on 12/07/2005 9:18:02 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII MOM -- Istook for OK Governor in 2006!)
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To: ishabibble
I would view Bill more as Hormone controlled and grossly incompetent.
14 posted on 12/07/2005 9:20:51 PM PST by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: neverdem

I'm waiting for her to wrap herself in the Confederate flag and shoot beer cans with a 12 guage.


15 posted on 12/07/2005 9:24:10 PM PST by digger48
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To: neverdem
Just like she was more worried about violent video games than real violence.

Until the video game industry held a fund raiser for her.

16 posted on 12/07/2005 10:13:39 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: msnimje
Triangulation leading to strangulation.


17 posted on 12/07/2005 11:17:15 PM PST by Milhous (Sarcasm - the last refuge of an empty mind.)
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To: neverdem
Poor little Hilly. It appears that her presidential run is off to a very rocky start.

What to do. Poll numbers are sagging. No one believes Hilly has any principles, thus reminding everyone of her lying, traitorous husband.

I know. Let's outlaw burning the flag as a sop to right-wing America!

18 posted on 12/08/2005 1:53:46 AM PST by Reactionary (Liberals are the Lunatic Fringe of the Lunatic Fringe)
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To: neverdem
Hard to believe it, but she must have learned at the feet of John Kerry:

I was for flag burning before I was against it."

Wait . . . wait . . . it's coming to me now . . . oh, yes! Stupid me! [insert sound of open palm striking forehead] She beat Kerry with the extended 60 Minutes interview/Monica Lewinsky performance dichotomy:

"I was against being the kind of woman who just stands behind her man before I was for being that kind of woman."

19 posted on 12/08/2005 1:57:06 AM PST by Scoutmaster
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