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To: aft_lizard

It is great but he ruined the whole thing with the stupid peace symbol in there.


13 posted on 12/07/2005 8:50:49 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: armymarinemom

Yeah, we noticed that too, when we watched it at work today. Still, just goes to show you what you can do with a computer and too much time on your hands!!


14 posted on 12/07/2005 8:55:24 PM PST by curlewbird
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To: armymarinemom

Thats fine with me. Maybe he is a peacenik, or he is using the symbol for peace on earth goodwill towards men.


15 posted on 12/07/2005 8:55:28 PM PST by aft_lizard (What does G-d look like then if we evolved from nothing?See Genisis Ch 1:26-27)
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To: armymarinemom
It is great but he ruined the whole thing with the stupid peace symbol in there.

The notion of peace is not stupid, and it's arrival would be welcome openly and gladly by most.

Granted, given the current set of circumstances, it may be an objective that is beyond the realm of reason.........wait a minute, maybe the idea of peace is stupid.

18 posted on 12/07/2005 8:59:09 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: armymarinemom
It is great but he ruined the whole thing with the stupid peace symbol in there

Really!!! What was he thinking?!? Tying the idea of peace in with Christmas?!?

Luke 2
13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

Hmmmmm.....

52 posted on 12/08/2005 11:08:52 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: armymarinemom; aft_lizard; hole_n_one; tgslTakoma; mvpel; billbears; Smittie
Peace Symbol History (from Counsel for Nuclear Disarmament Symbol Page). Note that the CND folks ask you to send a donation if you use the symbol. I think after reading this you can see why some people, especially those of us who lived through the nuclear disarmament era, might find the use of the peace symbol as part of a christmas decoration a bit "jarring".

One of the most widely known symbols in the world, in Britain it is recognised as standing for nuclear disarmament – and in particular as the logo of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND). In the United States and much of the rest of the world it is known more broadly as the peace symbol. It was designed in 1958 by Gerald Holtom, a professional designer and artist and a graduate of the Royal College of Arts. He showed his preliminary sketches to a small group of people in the Peace News office in North London and to the Direct Action Committee Against Nuclear War, one of several smaller organisations that came together to set up CND.

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Gerald Holtom, a conscientious objector who had worked on a farm in Norfolk during the Second World War, explained that the symbol incorporated the semaphore letters N(uclear) and D(isarmament). He later wrote to Hugh Brock, editor of Peace News, explaining the genesis of his idea in greater, more personal depth:

I was in despair. Deep despair. I drew myself: the representative of an individual in despair, with hands palm outstretched outwards and downwards in the manner of Goya’s peasant before the firing squad. I formalised the drawing into a line and put a circle round it.

Eric Austin added his own interpretation of the design: "the gesture of despair had long been associated with the death of Man and the circle with the unborn child."

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Later it appeared on anti-Vietnam War demonstrations and was even seen daubed in protest on their helmets by American GIs. Simpler to draw than the Picasso peace dove, it became known, first in the US and then round the world as the peace symbol.

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Although specifically designed for the anti-nuclear movement it has quite deliberately never been copyrighted. No one has to pay or to seek permission before they use it. A symbol of freedom, it is free for all. This of course sometimes leads to its use, or misuse, in circumstances that CND and the peace movement find distasteful. It is also often exploited for commercial, advertising or generally fashion purposes. We can’t stop this happening and have no intention of copyrighting it. All we can do is to ask commercial users if they would like to make a donation. Any money received is used for CND’s peace education and information work.

60 posted on 12/08/2005 12:10:49 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: armymarinemom

I love the US military it was the only thing my dad gave me. God bless them and their families.


65 posted on 12/08/2005 12:22:49 PM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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