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To: Alia

"Yes. It is hard -- knowing over 3,000 people might not have been murdered. I think I'd be feeling it even "harder" were I in law enforcement, military, FBI -- knowing I might have been able to stop the mass-murder, had I been allowed access to the data."

True. But personally, I really believe in staying positive.

We live in a great country---really one of the free-est in the history of man. That is why we can learn so much (though not all) about horrible stuff like the Able Danger suppression.

But what we need to do is keep fighting and do what we can to preserve this freedom. Just read the Gettysburg Address. All those men died---and in fact, had Meade pursued Lee after the battle as Lincoln expressly ordered him to, the Civil War would have probably ended right there.

Lincoln felt bad, but he didn't hang his head for long. He wrote the greatest speech of all time, elevated Grant to supreme command, and preserved the Union.

We can all do our small part too, and it keeps going.

Its really incredible when you look at people like Allawi in Iraq or Gary Kasparov in Russia. They have so little to work with, but they fight for freedom. Despite the imperfections of the US, we have so much.

We will win---we just have to realize that the Leftists of the world are, essentially, united, and we must learn to understand their organization---loose in some parts, tight in others---and realize that subversion is their great forte and weapon---and learn to secure our own party a little better against it.


17 posted on 12/08/2005 4:29:49 PM PST by strategofr
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To: strategofr
Its really incredible when you look at people like Allawi in Iraq or Gary Kasparov in Russia. They have so little to work with, but they fight for freedom. Despite the imperfections of the US, we have so much.

We will win---we just have to realize that the Leftists of the world are, essentially, united, and we must learn to understand their organization---loose in some parts, tight in others---and realize that subversion is their great forte and weapon---and learn to secure our own party a little better against it.

Dang! -- that was a great post! All of it. :)

18 posted on 12/08/2005 5:29:07 PM PST by Alia
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To: strategofr; Alia

I am not as optimistic. Rep Weldon is now catching flak over his membership in the Main Street Republican Project, a moderate Pub group who took money from Soros in the last election cycle. He is being lambasted to include his work on the Able Danger cover up. LTC Shaffer has been fired from his work after coming forward on the Atta being identified prior to the 911 attack. They really got into the character assassination mode on him. (Kinda like what Linda Tripp got during the Clinton/Lewinsky affair). He is also being silenced by court order from speaking on the matter. The cover up by the former 911 Commission Members and lack of follow up in the media is astounding. The BS spouted by Kean and Ben Vinesta just flies out unchallenged. The big one that they looked at all the Able Danger data and found nothing important is a damned lie. The commission did not receive any information on Able Danger until after the report had gone to the printer. There is adequate reason for both parties to bury the Able Danger story. Clinton's dereliction of duty on prosecuting Bin Laden and Al Queda and of course Bush will be blamed because of 911 happening on his watch. IMO the evidence that Able Danger did identify Atta and the 911 terrorists is that we had pictures of all the 911 hijackers in a matter of a few hours after the attacks. Just how did that happen? I guess they just pulled those pictures out of thin air. Silly me.


21 posted on 12/08/2005 5:54:40 PM PST by Burf (I didnt leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left me.)
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