Posted on 12/07/2005 6:47:16 PM PST by Heartofsong83
The suburban 905 area around Toronto is a dead heat between the Liberals and Conservatives. The Conservatives are also leading by a wide margin in Eastern Ontario (613 area code), leading in Southwestern Ontario (519 area code) and pretty strong in Central Ontario (rest of 905 and part of 705 area codes).
The big reason the Conservatives aren't gaining is the 416 area code (City of Toronto), where they weren't expected to get any seats anyway.
Same in British Columbia - solidifying in the Interior, falling in Vancouver.
Considering that Toronto is a write off because the Liebranos have imported hundreds of thousands of 3rd worlders into it these numbers are actually pretty good.
That's how I see it too. If the Conservatives and Liberals are tied in Ontario, the Conservatives will get quite a bit more seats.
Amen to that.
What is the basic philosophy of the NDP? Are they much different from the Liberals?
Left of the Liberals. Out of the mainstream, although they have their niche as a socialist party, mainly catering to urban-hippies, social activists (i.e. gay rights supporters) and traditional unionists (although the former more so nowadays).
Basically, think Ralph Nader when it comes to our NDP.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
That's about how it sums up, although the Liberals and Conservatives are much bigger tents than the NDP. On the equivalent scale to the US parties, our Liberals would range from the mainstream US Democrats to the Kucinich wing (far left Democrats) and left-wing independents. The Conservatives would spread from the mainstream Republicans (although a few would even fit in the conservative wing) to RINOs and moderate Democrats. The NDP are left of any American party.
Noqw hold on a second. I believe the number of freaken Liberals up here in Khanuckistan is 75%.
It would seem that the key is whether the Liberals suffer vote wastage by having their base trapped in more inner city districts ala the Congressional district situation in the US.
Thanks for the explanation. Kind of what I assumed. With that kind of alignment, it hardly seems possible that the Tories could ever win a national election. And come to think of it, I guess they never do, right? Although how did Mulrooney sneak in there? Too much of Trudeau?
Basically a collapse of the Liberals, plus a coalition (although unnecessary in the end - he won an overwhelming majority) with Quebec separatists. He sort of rode the coattails of Thatcher and Reagan as well, although he really fell apart in his second term with the Meech Lake debacle and the GST.
That's what is very much happening.
3-way race likely there...
A tie in Ontario would be a huge victory for the tories, right??
Is it true that the more western provinces have fewer seats per capita?? Wouldn't that be descrimination?? Cause it sure ain't Democratic.
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