Posted on 12/07/2005 5:27:03 PM PST by Heyworth
This stunt by rabid atheists is highly disturbing.
Im not surprised to see that Richard Dawkins has some role in it all....
ABOUT "THE GOD WHO WASN'T THERE" "Provocative -- to put it mildly," said the Los Angeles Times about "THE GOD WHO WASN'T THERE."
Since its world premiere in May 2005, the film has had theatrical exposure in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and dozens of other cities.
The film won the 2005 Best Documentary prize at the Grassroots Cinema Festival.
Partial cast list: * Sam Harris won the 2005 PEN Award for his uncompromising book "The End of Faith," which argues that religious faith poses great dangers to the human race.
* Robert M. Price is Professor of Biblical Criticism at the Center for Inquiry Institute and a fellow of the Jesus Seminar.
* Richard Dawkins, possibly the world's most famous atheist, is an evolutionary biologist and author of several best-selling books.
* Alan Dundes was Professor of Folklore and Anthropology at the University of California, Berkeley.
I'm so ANGRY about this that Im staying up all night emailing every Christian and spiritual group I can think of in order to thwart these fiends.
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Ding ding ding Gaydar going off.....
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
That was Hebrews 11:1. I don't see much about knowledge in faith's description. Knowledge isn't necessarily a bad thing, but knowledge led to a lot of trouble in the Garden of Eden.
http://www.thebeastmovie.com/
The Beast A thriller. A Christian girl discovers proof that Jesus Christ never existed--and a shadowy group of fundamentalist Christians mark her as the Beast and will do anything to keep her from making the information public. Based on my recent research into the theory that Christ never existed. Working on this project now.
Relese date 06-06-06
What a disturbed nutjob Oh and here's the creep's personal blog:
http://www.slumdance.com/blogs/brian_flemming/
I could no more be a former Christian than a former man. To have a personal relationship with Christ is the greatest thing ever to happen to me. I doubted for years, tried to "get religion" many times. It didn't work.
Jesus' parable of the sower says it all. Let he who hath an ear let him hear." God bless and Merry Christmas.
And it's liberals who complain about "hate speach". Unbelievable. Would the 3 newspapers in particular have run these ads if the ads were attacking islam? Somehow I don't think so.
So , if there was no Jesus , then there is no Christmas. Therefore I expect that Brian Fleming will NOT take off Dec25th ..After all , how much of a fraud would he have to be to knock Christmas then take a holiday off work on the 25th ..Think he'll be at the desk ?
INTREP - This may not sit will with the One whose birthday we celebrate.
Sounds to me like this is a case for the 'Star Chamber'...
The lead character points the camera towards his face and says "I deny the holy spirit", then the letters "I am not afraid." appear on the screen.
I'll be ringing the bell for the Salvation Army next Saturday morning and hoping the local athiest comes by for an ass-kicking.
The scriptures are pretty thin on reason and rationality in a lot of places, something which would be foolish to deny. My father is a preacher, has a graduate degree in theology, has libraries worth of books in Hebrew, Greek, and Latin (he is literate and fluent in those languages). Being someone who dabbled quite a bit in mathematics and philosophy in college while finding his true calling, he always told me that anyone with a proper education in mathematics and logic will have little difficulty finding the holes in commonly held religious doctrine and in the details of the Christian faith. By his own admission, and being in a position to have a qualified opinion, there is nothing intrinsically rational about religion and he often thought the assertion that it is rational in the face of clear evidence to the contrary chased away a lot of intelligent and well-educated people who had no intrinsic problem with the faith but were not comfortable with the whitewashing of real inconsistencies.
Despite that, he quite obviously believed in Christianity then and does now -- he is still actively involved in his denomination out in a small town in flyover country, and gives sermons every Sunday.
He had one point that I think sums it up nicely. People who believe do so for reasons that have nothing to do with it being rational, and those that assert otherwise are not sufficiently educated to have an opinion on that matter. By his way of thinking, faith was believing even when an intelligent and educated person can discern the transparent irrationality of it. One can argue the wisdom of believing in something one knows to be irrational, but there is little one can say about a person who does being fully cognizant of the nature of his belief.
Back to the original point, diligent study by intelligent, educated, and skeptical persons who start from the assumption that Christianity is correct can quite easily lead to atheism if they have a general philosophy of rationality and creedal minimalism to the exclusion of all other axioms. I've seen it happen more than once. Not everyone can examine the inconsistencies with an objective eye and choose to maintain the basic belief that premises these inconsistencies, though a great many do.
Please don't take offense, but your generalizations and scripture references don't give you the ability to know what I was like or felt 20 years ago. Had you met that person, I have no doubts you would have accepted him as a Christian without a second thought. I do appreciate your confidence that no one who once truly believed could ever become convinced otherwise, but that is my history. Whether you believe it happened or not has no bearing on it.
If it is any consolation, I do still believe in God, just not necessarily the literal Biblical one. My skepticism, for lack of a better word, is directed more towards the institution of religion rather than the idea of a Divine father. I personally believe that if He pays us any attention at all it is more for detached bemusement at our antics in His name than anything else.
NoCmpromiz, although you never asked me directly, my studies were mainly about the origins of the various writings and legends that eventually were voted and bargained into inclusion within the Bible. I was fascinated with the thought that men decided through political compromise what Words of God were more important than others, and from there I started studying about the origins of these various items. So in essence it wasn't so much studying the Bible as it was studying about it.
Merry Christmas to you all.
Need to find out where these terroatheists are going to be "descending" on.
My bet is several NYC events. And also in LA too.
I am sorry but your definition of faith is simply wrong.
"Just curious as to your take. I know you to be a reasonable intellectual, and I believe you profess to be an atheist, and I'm wondering if you support what these guys in the article are up to. Like to get some reason here on this thread, if you don't mind."
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