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Air Marshal Kills Passenger, Citing Threat
My Way News ^ | December 6, 2005 | JOHN PAIN

Posted on 12/07/2005 4:43:31 PM PST by ConservativeMind

MIAMI (AP) - An agitated passenger who claimed to have a bomb in his backpack was shot and killed by a federal air marshal Wednesday after he bolted frantically from a jetliner that was about to take off, officials said. No bomb was found.

The man, identified as Rigoberto Alpizar, a 44-year-old U.S. citizen, was gunned down on a jetway just before the American Airlines plane was about to leave for Orlando, near his home in Maitland.

It was the first time since the Sept. 11 attacks that an air marshal had shot at anyone, Homeland Security Department spokesman Brian Doyle said.

According to a witness, the man frantically ran down the aisle of the Boeing 757, flailing his arms, while his wife tried to explain that he was mentally ill and had not taken his medication.

The passenger indicated there was a bomb in his bag and was confronted by air marshals but ran off the aircraft, Doyle said. The marshals went after him and ordered him to get down on the ground, but he did not comply and was shot when he apparently reached into the bag, Doyle said.

The plane, Flight 924, had arrived in Miami from Medellin, Colombia, just after noon, and the shooting occurred shortly after 2 p.m. as the plane was about to take off for Orlando with the man and 119 other passengers and crew, American spokesman Tim Wagner said. Alpizar had arrived in Miami earlier in the day from Ecuador, authorities said.

After the shooting, investigators spread passengers' bags on the tarmac and let dogs sniff them for explosives, and bomb squad members blew up at least two bags.

No bomb was found, said James E. Bauer, agent in charge of the Federal Air Marshals field office in Miami. He said there was no reason to believe there was any connection to terrorists.

The concourse where the shooting took place was shut down for a half-hour, but the rest of the airport continued operating, officials said.

Mary Gardner, a passenger aboard the Orlando-bound flight, told WTVJ-TV in Miami that the man ran down the aisle from the rear of the plane. "He was frantic, his arms flailing in the air," she said. She said a woman followed, shouting, "My husband! My husband!"

Gardner said she heard the woman say her husband was bipolar - a mental illness also known as manic-depression - and had not had his medication.

Gardner said four to five shots were fired. She could not see the shooting.

After the shooting, police boarded the plane and told the passengers to put their hands on their heads, Gardner said.

"It was quite scary," she told the TV station via a cell phone. "They wouldn't let you move. They wouldn't let you get anything out of your bag."

There were only 33 air marshals at the time of the Sept. 11 attacks. The Bush administration hired thousands more afterward, but the exact number is classified.

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Associated Press writers Mark Sherman and Lara Jakes Jordan in Washington contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; alpizar; cleanupaisle1; flight924
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To: ConservativeMind
Lets put a face to the name........


41 posted on 12/07/2005 5:37:32 PM PST by ThreePuttinDude ()......Politically incorrect by Design........()
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To: ConservativeMajority

They attempted it with the brazilian mans shooting in london, and you know they are gonna spin this one too.


42 posted on 12/07/2005 5:38:38 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: CindyDawg

I believe you misunderstood my first comment, which was tongue-in-cheek (and not very clear, sorry).


43 posted on 12/07/2005 5:39:26 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: AmishDude
From what I've heard, (its been on the Tampa radio all afternoon) they waited
for the guy to get out of the aircraft, and away from other passengers.
44 posted on 12/07/2005 5:40:32 PM PST by ThreePuttinDude ()......Politically incorrect by Design........()
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To: pissant

This widow doesn't have any chance in Hades of winning a lawsuit in this case.


45 posted on 12/07/2005 5:41:11 PM PST by Alberta's Child (What it all boils down to is that no one's really got it figured out just yet.)
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To: Rome2000; stan the beaver
To: stan the beaver
If a guy is SHOUTING that he has a bomb, he is most likely a nut case.
Real bombers don't shout out that they have a bomb, they just try to set their shoes on fire in the bathroom.

ROom2000: You are much too logical for this thread. You are supposed to shout, "GOOD SHOOT!"

Real bombers also don't have their wives following them shouting that he's bipolar and didn't take his medication, and they usually don't run OFF the airplane. And bombs aren't often in bags that have already gone through security screening.

GOOD SHOOT!

46 posted on 12/07/2005 5:45:55 PM PST by MRMEAN (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of congress;but I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: ThreePuttinDude
"...she heard the woman say her husband was bipolar -
a mental illness also known as manic-depression -
and had not had his medication."

So why HADN'T he taken it, ma'am?
47 posted on 12/07/2005 5:47:55 PM PST by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: pissant

wingtip footprints?

LOL


48 posted on 12/07/2005 5:47:57 PM PST by altura
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To: ConservativeMind
Kill only the mentally ill who are running off of a packed plane yelling they set a bomb while ignoring air marshals demands to freeze....

Agreed.
49 posted on 12/07/2005 5:52:56 PM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party)
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To: 1rudeboy
Either you watch way too many cop TV shows and old westerns or you are one damned good shot Marshall (insert name here)_________.
50 posted on 12/07/2005 5:54:48 PM PST by ChefKeith ( If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking... And I'm getting sick of talking!)
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To: ConservativeMajority

What Democrats think does not matter to me!;)


51 posted on 12/07/2005 6:02:11 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: 1rudeboy
Oh lol. Well, I don't like to insult people, esp guys on their shooting skills. Yall take bulls eye criticism way too personally IMO :')
52 posted on 12/07/2005 6:09:00 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Argus

"People who are manic-depressive can still distinguish reality from fantasy, and respond appropriately to orders to stop, put their hands up, etc."

Depends, in some cases of bi-polar (type II) an untreated person can become quite irrational, have auditory and visual halucinations etc. etc.

I know this because I know someone like that. On their meds they are as normal as can be, but without them they would act very much like that guy.


53 posted on 12/07/2005 6:30:54 PM PST by Grig
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To: ConservativeMind

The amazing part of this story is that its even news.

Shoulda just tossed him out the door onto the runway and thrown him out with the trash.

Maybe made the local papaers at best.

When the cops don't shoot someone yelling they have a bomb fleeing and reaching into their bag. Thats when I want a national crisis.


54 posted on 12/07/2005 6:31:22 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: oneofmany
U.K. proved the same thing in July when they dusted that guy that ran from them.

Except that when all the evidence was in, it looks as if the man in London did NOT run from anyone. Here, all the evidence seems to be that the man did exactly what the Marshals said he did. I believe that this was a "good shoot" but London seems not to have been.

55 posted on 12/07/2005 6:49:35 PM PST by BohDaThone
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To: nevergore

If you read your own tag line, and apply that to the decedant, maybe you'll understand. America will not tolerate threats anymore. This was suicide by cop. Sad, but not anything like the wrongheaded screed you posted.


56 posted on 12/07/2005 6:53:14 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: ConservativeMind

If the guy was truly mentally ill, this is quite a tragedy for his family. They should be in our prayers.

However, you can't say the Air Marshall did the wrong thing, if the facts presented here are correct. You can't take chances on someone who claims to have a bomb in their bag and then reaches into their bag acting like they are going to set it off.


57 posted on 12/07/2005 7:02:18 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: MRMEAN
The real funny thing is what the expression on the collective sheeples face will be when, after putting up with 5 years of disrobing and literal cavity searches by now Federalized morons just to board a plane, the ragheads manage to just buy a few jumbo jets and fly them into US targets non stop from the mideast.

The TSA doesn't control King Fahd International Airport.

God know what the "Air Marshals" would have done if the guy took a dump on the drink cart.

Probably set off a tear gas canister or two.

58 posted on 12/07/2005 7:23:20 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: labette

The air marshall didn't decide.

The would-be bomber made the decision.


59 posted on 12/07/2005 7:31:09 PM PST by TFMcGuire
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To: CindyDawg

ISN'T THIS THE VERY REASON WE HAVE THESE AIR MARSHALLS NOW? HOW WOULD HE KNOW THIS MAN WAS DISTURBED? HE DID HIS JOB & NOW THERE WILL BE ALL KINDS OF BS & LAWSUITS. I FEEL FOR THIS AIR MARSHALL & HIS FAMILY. HE WAS DOING HIS JOB, A JOB HE WAS TRAINNED TO DO. I BLAME THE WIFE. SHE SHOULD HAVE MADE HER HUSBAND TAKE HIS MEDS. SHE KNEW WHAT COULD HAPPEN BETTER THEN ANYONE. IF HE REFUSED HIS MEDS SHE HAD NO RIGHT TO PUT THE PUBLIC IN DANGER & THATS JUST WHAT SHE DID. SHE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN HIM TO HIS DR ASAP BEFORE TAKING A FLIGHT, SEEMS TO ME SHE DIDNT HAVE COMMON SENSE. SEEMS TO ME THERES A BIG LACK OF GOOD OLD COMMON SENSE ALL AROUND THESE DAYS. VERY SAD.


60 posted on 12/07/2005 8:02:02 PM PST by pandoraou812
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