Why December 25? The origin of Christmas had nothing to do with paganism

WORLD Magazine ^ | Dec 10, 2005 | Gene Edward Veith

[GLDNGUN]

Or it could just be that there was no Jesus and as such any date chosen for his birth is just arbitrary.

Oh, yeah. THAT must be it. NOT.

[GLDNGUN]

The STAR OF BETHLEHEM also indicates that the date of birth was December 25th by those who have studied this topic in depth.

[Sentis]

That guy is a nut job I have seen him on several of the Narnia thread attacking C.S. Lewis and his works. If it wasn't for those books especially "screwtape letters" and "Mere christianity" I would still be an atheist. It's hard for me to see somebody that can barely write attacking the writer who showed me Christ.

[gcruse]

Oh, yeah. THAT must be it. NOT.

I used to posit a historical Jesus, whether he was Christ or not, but even that doesn't look too likely any more.  The forty year gap between 'resurrection' and the writing of Mark should have been filled with such religious turbulence it would have made the Antioch Evening News.  There was just Paul, and his writings suggest he had little to go on besides the Damascus apparition.

[Lester Moore]

Jesus is coming to Rapture the CHURCH.......NOT the kingdom!

Will you source that.

[aShepard]

bump for later disection!

[GLDNGUN]

That guy is a nut job I have seen him on several of the Narnia thread attacking C.S. Lewis and his works. If it wasn't for those books especially "screwtape letters" and "Mere christianity" I would still be an atheist. It's hard for me to see somebody that can barely write attacking the writer who showed me Christ.

God bless you. This person sounds like some "Christians" I have run across on the internet who have such a narrow and rigid view that anyone slightly to the left or right of them are seeds of Satan. They think the people that will make it heaven can be counted on one hand, and of course that includes them.

[Laz711]

Precesion [sp] of the Earth on its axis.

[GLDNGUN]

I used to posit a historical Jesus, whether he was Christ or not, but even that doesn't look too likely any more. The forty year gap between 'resurrection' and the writing of Mark should have been filled with such religious turbulence it would have made the Antioch Evening News. There was just Paul, and his writings suggest he had little to go on besides the Damascus apparition.

Perhaps you need to do a little more reading. The New Testament would be a good place to start.

[Chickensoup]

Because when the calendar was changed, we added three days.

[Godzilla]

Maybe, but that is not clear. We know by daybreak that Mary Magdalene had discovered Him gone but we really don't know when.

Read your bible more, with Saturday being the sabbath and the last day of the week, Sunday is naturally the first day of the week.

Mt 28:1 - In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

[Godzilla]

'Narnia'......is NOT a christian work but is about an anti-Christ-lion! .................'Narnia' is therefore......Pro U.N. and Pro Islam!

No more sugar for you.

[peyton randolph]

December 25 was the birthday of Mithras, who was also born of a virgin, in a cave, died for mankind and ascended into heaven about two centuries before Christ.

Shhh. Don't let facts get in the way of a good fantasy. Amazing how many of the people who believe this bilge make fun of Harry Potter books as works of fiction.

For my part, I'll be celebrating the birth of Brian on December 25th.

All three wise men: We worship you, oh Brian, who are lord over us all. Praise unto you, Brian, and to the Lord, our father. Amen.

Mother: Do you do a lot of this, then?

Gaspar: What?

Mother: This praising.

Gaspar: No, no...no, no.

Mother: Oh, well, ehm, if you're dropping by again, do pop in, huh. And thanks a lot for the gold and frankincense, ahm, but don't worry too much about the myrrh the next time, all right? Huh. Thank you! Goodbye!

[peyton randolph]

'Narnia' is therefore......Pro U.N. and Pro Islam!

This tidbit will pierce your tinfoil hat.

Narnia is an anagram for "An Iran."

[gcruse]

I've read it. I've read the concordances. I've plunged headlong into theology, and emerged with the belief it's a lot of wishful thinking driven by desparation. Existentialism is a harsh master, but it has the advantage of being rational and honest.

[Sentis]

Read "Mere Christianity" it postulates a rational reason to believe.

[GLDNGUN]

I've read it. I've read the concordances. I've plunged headlong into theology, and emerged with the belief it's a lot of wishful thinking driven by desparation. Existentialism is a harsh master, but it has the advantage of being rational and honest.

Even athiestic historians don't dispute that Christ WAS an actual historical figure. Oh, sure, I'll bet you can find a couple crackpots out there to argue the point, but then again, you can for almost anything.

The most significant person and events upon this earth are certainly not a myth. If Christ DID exist, then you are faced with several questions, such as WHO was He? What are the implications? Etc. You have simply chosen the easiest way to avoid all that by pretending that He never existed.

[gcruse]

I'm not pretending at all. As I said, up until recently I believed there was a Jesus of Nazareth. I'm not so sure now. At any rate, he was not god.

[mel]

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[mel]

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