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To: GLDNGUN

I'm not pretending at all. As I said, up until recently I believed there was a Jesus of Nazareth. I'm not so sure now. At any rate, he was not god.


58 posted on 12/07/2005 4:24:14 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: gcruse

Why are you having the doubt that Jesus the Man existed. We can debate the merits of his godhood later but I would like to understand the reason for your belief that the man is myth.


61 posted on 12/07/2005 4:26:44 PM PST by Sentis
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To: gcruse
I'm not pretending at all. As I said, up until recently I believed there was a Jesus of Nazareth. I'm not so sure now. At any rate, he was not god.

Well, denying reality IS "pretending". Christ did claim He was God, so if He wasn't, then He was a liar or simply crazy.

Off course, healing sick people, casting out demons, and being raised from the dead is a little tough for ordinary liars and crack pots to pull off.

63 posted on 12/07/2005 4:29:25 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: gcruse
. . . up until recently I believed there was a Jesus of Nazareth. I'm not so sure now. At any rate, he was not god.

You seem pretty certain and dogmatic in your belief that he was not God. How can you be so sure?

127 posted on 12/07/2005 9:25:24 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor and Ph.D. student in Biblical Studies)
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To: gcruse
At any rate, he was not god.

that will be news to Him...

141 posted on 12/07/2005 10:29:06 PM PST by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: gcruse
I find your conclusions interesting. I was extremely curious myself about the subject. Even though there is no evidence at all to suggest the gospels were fabricated writings, there are other mentioning of Jesus in secular historical accounts as well. Here's my conclusions.
1. Jesus existed
2. Jesus was executed for his statements and actions
3. Jesus went missing from his grave
4. Some people (including his own flesh brother that didn't follow his teachings) truly believed he rose from the dead.
221 posted on 12/08/2005 12:39:49 PM PST by usastandsunited
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