Posted on 12/07/2005 1:21:38 PM PST by Checkers
From today's Hotline:
"~~~Don't Believe The Hype?
Is "immigration" the great overlooked issue that is ready to shoot up the "importance" chart? Or is it simply the obsession of a passionate, and vocal, minority of GOPers? -- The results out of immigration's first big electoral test in CA 48 seem to favor the latter. Minuteman founder Jim Gilchrist (I) spent approx $500K (nearly 4 times the Dem nominee), was covered in the media as if he were the chief challenger to eventual winner John Campbell (R) and was running in one of the most immigration-focused CDs (the O.C.). -- And yet, Gilchrist finished 3rd with 25%, trailing a Dem nominee who couldn't even top 10% in the 1st round of voting. -- We have yet to see a nat'l poll showing immigration topping double-digits in importance, and anecdotal evidence tells us Jerry Kilgore's immigration hit didn't impact swing voters in VA GOV. Clearly, it's important to a vocal segment of GOPers, but whether it's an issue that moves swing voters is up for debate. Could THE lawmakers hearing so much about immigration be falling victim to a minority of constituents who just happen to show up to town meetings?~~~"
Bad analysis by the Hotline editors. The issues surrounding border security are real and do resonate with voters, but the new Congressman, John Campbell, addressed those issues every day of the campaign and walked away with the race despite the huge effort by the Gilchrist forces and the round-the-clock pumping of Gilchrist by local talk radio pot-and-pan bangers who tried unsuccessfully to distort Campbell's very strong positions. Had Campbell not been very solid on these issues, he'd have had a much tougher race. Message to GOP: Be very strong on border security and stay far away from amnesty.
(Excerpt) Read more at hughhewitt.com ...
Perhap you missed my post about Campbell being the Co-Chair of the California Border Police Initiative since August 5, 2005?
It would appear to the Average Joe Sixpack conservative in the 48th that Campbell had a change of heart. "It's not my job." and "What the hell were they thinking with these crazy ideas anyway?" seems to be a natural conclusion Joe might draw from Campbell's comments.
Well, MY opinion of the Minuteman Project is somewhat ambivalent too - what we don't need is MORE lawbreakers!
That is obviously a growing concern of a substantial portion of the electorate both nationally and especially in California.
Even Schwarzenegger, apparently without campaign committee vetting, expressed his opinion on that issue.
The Governor denounced the Minuteman Project too?!
In what universe is 23,237 votes = "Substantial Portion" of the electorate?! Do you even know how many registered voters are in the 48th District?
Registered Voters 405,655
Ballots Cast 93,138
Turnout 23.0%
(23,000 votes = 5.7% of the 48th District's "electorate")
Message to monomaniacal talk radio hosts: You can't fool even a quarter of the people half of the time. Voters know who is strong on the border, and on all the other crucial issues, esepcially the war, as well.Hugh seems to be talking to himself. Yes, we do know, and it ain't the guy he's shilling for.
The reference was to Schwarzenegger's statement regarding the porosity of California's southern border.
"Close the borders. Close the borders in California, and all across Mexico and the United States," Schwarzenegger told hundreds of newspaper publishers at Newspaper Association of American convention the Fairmont Hotel in San Francisco.
"Because I think it is just unfair to have all of those people coming across, and to have the borders open the way it is," the California governor said. "We in California have to still finish the border. That is the key thing -- to have borders and to keep the law, enforce the law."
It was assumed that the original reference to MORE lawbreakers was the same as Schwarzenegger's.
You can dislike the Minutemen, but they have not broken any laws. They have more of a right to protect the borders of their country then the millions of illegals have coming across illegally.
I never said they broke any laws - neither they nor the illegal aliens though have any greater right to do so.
THEY don't do so at all. The only people who do are self-styled "real" conservatives who lack better rhetorical skills.
No, but many media types, not saying you do this, like to portray the illegals coming across as the quiet heroes, and the minutemen as racist vigilantes. Calling them vigilantes is one thing, a title I would not be ashamed to have, but calling them racist is an underhanded tactic.
But the simple fact of being here illegally is a crime, whether they are caught or not.
That is now abundantly clear. Schwarzenegger's was apparently talking about another form of lawlessness. One with equal an foundation in self preservation but absent the concept of sovereignty or the responsibilities of national citizenship.
Simple ignorance is a better description of that tactic.
Racially, the modal US citizen and the modal Mexican citizen are both Caucasoids which precludes any racial component in motive.
To the ignorant, any perceived cultural bigot is a racist.
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"You're a liar."
No, you are!
He has always been as POS liberal and has voted against or been against every anti illegal issue in the past.
The more people heard about him the more they voted for Gilchrist which is why Gilchrist won the actual election day voting by almost 2000. Had it not been for Campbell's enormous advantage in absentee votes, he would not have been elected. Even still, he's on notice: vote against the amnesty scam or see yourself out next November.
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