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Rep. Murtha Holds a News Conference to Respond to President Bush's Speech [Barfer]
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| December 7, 2005
Posted on 12/07/2005 12:40:40 PM PST by ncountylee
MURTHA: Let me start by going through a timeline and then get to what the president said.
In May 1, 2003, the president declared it was a major -- end of major operations. Then he sent John Hamre to Iraq. John Hamre was undersecretary of defense in the Clinton administration. And he found all kinds of problems. He said: You got three months, three critical months to get this thing under control if you want to control the security; 12 months at the most, but three months are crucial, the first three months.
He said small things like sewage and water and things that a lot of people don't pay attention to -- I pay attention, because in my district that's important. But a lot of people paid no attention to that report.
MURTHA: I went there -- now this was July that Hamre made his report and it was a very prescient report. I mean, it was a very accurate report about the predictions of what was going to happen. And we have a copy of it here for you.
In August 16th, I went to Iraq, from August 16th to the 20th. When I came back, I said to Secretary Rumsfeld: We require immediate attention of body armor. They said they were prepared. They said they had what they needed.
Forty thousand troops didn't have body armor. They needed armored Humvees. They needed jammers and Kevlar blankets they asked for. This was all levels of people in Iraq at the time.
And then I wrote to the president on September 4th and I said, "I believe you have miscalculated the magnitude of the effort we are facing. We should energize, Iraqitize and internationalize this effort."
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; cutandrun; cutnrunmurtha; iraq; murtha
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To: ncountylee
John Hamre was undersecretary of defense in the Clinton administration. Why weren't the Clintonistas replaced before the damage could start?
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:44:06 PM PST
by
ncountylee
(Dead terrorists smell like victory)
To: ncountylee
With all do respect congressman, STFU.
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:44:41 PM PST
by
yobid
(What we have here is a failure to communicate)
To: ncountylee
He did not get the memo to ignore Howard Dean apparently.
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:44:56 PM PST
by
finnman69
(cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
To: ncountylee
This is incoherent nonsense and his history on policy suggestions is not one worthy of respect. He is just the latest Cindy Sheehan.
To: ncountylee
What was this military genius's rank when h left the Marines? Anyone...
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:47:44 PM PST
by
Edgerunner
(Proud to be an infidel)
To: ncountylee
The traitor speaks again.
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:48:47 PM PST
by
TheDon
(The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
To: beyond the sea
MURTHA:
I'm not talking about going back in if there's civil war, because we're in a civil war right now. We're caught in between a civil war right now.It's in the WaPo transcript.
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:48:57 PM PST
by
Petronski
(I love Cyborg!)
To: ncountylee
This reads like the incoherent ramblings of an advanced alzheimer's patient. Is he usually this incoherent or is he just battling dementia?
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:49:01 PM PST
by
pgkdan
To: ncountylee
I do believe that if you gave Cong. Murtha an overdose of Exlax, you could bury him in a matchbox!! He is full of it!!
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:49:40 PM PST
by
geezerwheezer
(get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
To: Txsleuth
Here is a transcript of what you heard earlier, Tx:
Hamre said: You've got three months to win the hearts and minds of the people, to get this under control, to get the looting and so forth under control. We didn't do that. There's been poor planning from the start by the Defense Department. The Defense Department fought to keep this planning under their control. State Department had entirely different reasons for wanting it. And we even voted in the House to give it to the State Department. And finally, in conference, we had to agree to let the president make the decision. He made the decision to give it to the Defense Department.
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:50:17 PM PST
by
Bahbah
(Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
To: ncountylee

Congressman Johnson and his wife, Shirley, embrace after nearly seven years apart, Sheppard Air Force Base. (U.S. Air Force photo)
Sam Johnson on Iraq: Withdrawal is not an option
Washington, Nov 18 - Today U.S. Congressman Sam Johnson (3rd Dist.-Texas) delivered the following closing statement on the floor of the House of Representatives in opposition to a resolution calling for the immediate withdrawal of American troops in Iraq. The day before U.S. Rep. John P. Murtha of Pennsylvania, a House Democrat, advocated pulling out U.S. troops from Iraq by introducing his own resolution. The bill failed by a vote of 403-3.
A 29-year Air Force veteran, Johnson spent nearly seven years as a Prisoner of War in Vietnam.

American POWs at Hanoi's Gia Lam Airport, awaiting flights for home, Feb. 12, 1973. Congressman Johnson is fifth in line
Mr. Speaker I rise today on behalf of the American men and women in uniform and their families.
I spent 29 years in the Air Force served in Korea and Vietnam
and spent seven years as a POW in Vietnam more than half of that time in solitary confinement.
I know what its like to be far from home serving your country risking your life and hearing that America doesnt care about you
Your Congress doesnt care about you. Your Congress just cut all funding for your war. Theyre packing up and going home and leaving you here.
When I was a POW, I was scared to death when our Congress talked about pulling the plug that I would be left there forever.
I know what it does to morale I know what it does to the mission and so help me God, I will never, ever let our nation make those mistakes again. Never.
Our men and women in uniform need our full support. They need to know that when theyre in Iraq driving from Camp Blue Diamond to Camp Victory that the Congress is behind them
to give them the best armored trucks they can drive, the best weapons they can fire, and the best ammunition they can use.
They need to have full faith that a few nay-sayers in Washington wont cut and run and leave them high and dry. They need to know these things because thats mandatory for mission success and troop morale.
America and the Congress must stand behind our men and women in uniform because they stand up for us every minute of every day!
Any talk even so much as a murmur of leaving now just emboldens the enemy and weakens the resolve of our of troops in the field. Thats dangerous! If you dont believe me check out Al Jazeera. This story is on the front page. We cant do that to our fellow Americans over there.
Mr. Speaker were making great progress in Iraq.
Remember in January how we saw pictures from Iraq of that first election. For weeks the media predicted gloom and doom. Remember that? What did we see? We watched people as they waited in lines for hours defying death threats just to cast their vote for democracy.
Remember the picture of the woman in a black head cover flashing her purple finger in the V after voting in the first Iraqi elections. It was a breakthrough for democracy and it was just the beginning.
Remember the recent vote on the referendum -- when people came out in droves to make their voice heard. You wouldnt have known about it because there was so little mention of it here in the American press but people got out there and they voted they showed their support for a democracy a new government, hope and a future.
These people are thirsting for something more theyre risking their lives in the name of a new government and we must stay the course if we want to foster a stable Iraq and create hope for millions in the Middle East.
And our work is paying off -- not just at the ballot box. Remember when we were waking up that Sunday morning in shock as we caught Saddam Hussein cowering in a rat-hole. Hes gone.
And you know what, at least 46 of Husseins 55 most wanted regime members are either dead or incarcerated.
Nationwide, thousands and thousands of police officers have been hired and nearly 200,000 Iraqi soldiers are trained and serving their country.
Its going to take time but our guys on the ground are working with other nations to make inroads to create leadership and inspire democracy in a country that has only known hate, fear, and death from a ruler.
However, sadly some here want to embolden the enemy by saying we just cut and run. Thats just irresponsible and unconscionable.
I have to ask What would Iraq be like if the United States pulled out -- allowing dangerous people like the head of al-Qaida, Zarqawi, to run the country? What would that mean for the region? The world?
Al Qaida rules with death, fear, terror and blood. Al Qaida takes innocent people hostage then beheads them and then brags about it on the internet.
Al Qaida has no respect for human life. They prey on innocent people to do their dirty work because they know we dont target schools and hospitals and mosques yet those are the exact places that theyre using for safe cover.
Al Qaida will kidnap loved ones especially very young children - of people trying to build democracy like local leaders to scare them out of helping out the new country. Theyre taking kids hostage because parents want a new life and a better future for their children. Why is that such a crime?
What part of Al Qaida do you want operating here in America?
Al Qaida is a world-wide organization and world-wide threat. I dont want any part of this. Americans dont want, need or deserve al Qaida. Our troops are over in Iraq fighting not just for our freedom and protection but freedom for the world.
We must fight the bad guys over there not over here. WE must support our troops to the hilt so they dont go to bed at night covered in talcum-powder thin white sand wondering Does America really support me.
In case people have forgotten, this is the same thing that happened in Vietnam. Peaceniks and people in Congress and America - started saying bad things about what was going on over there. Let me tell you what it did for troop morale. Its a real downer. I just pray our troops and their families can block this noise out and know that I will fight like mad to make sure our troops have everything they need - for as long as they need - to win the global war on terrorism.
Withdrawal is not an option!
I hope and pray every Member of Congress stands up and says to our troops THANK YOU and AMERICA SUPPORTS YOU.
To them I say, God bless you and I salute you.

Glad to be Home
Congressman Johnson acknowledges the press and crowd at Sheppard Air Force Base, Wichita Falls, Texas, Feb. 17, 1973. (U.S. Air Force photo)
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:50:18 PM PST
by
Zacs Mom
(Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
To: ncountylee
It happened with Sheehan, it's happening with Murtha ... when your 15 minutes is up, don't try and stretch it to 16.
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:50:46 PM PST
by
Tarpon
To: Edgerunner
What was this military genius's rank when h left the Marines?
LtCol if I'm not mistaken
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:51:47 PM PST
by
deport
(Merry Christmas; Feliz Navidad; Buon Natale; Joyeux Noël to one and all and Happy Holidays to.)
To: Tarpon
I think once we pull out, we'll be able to talk to them. Yup....his mind is gone.
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:52:33 PM PST
by
ncountylee
(Dead terrorists smell like victory)
To: ncountylee
Aside from this man being illiterate, he's wrong.
To: ncountylee
Too bad Murtha can't sustain the dignity of old age and keep his mouth shut except to support the military he apparently once proudly served.
He really doesn't seem balanced. Which is a shame, but maybe with proper medication and a structured environment, he'd improve.
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:52:41 PM PST
by
Judith Anne
(Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
To: ncountylee
Because they are career appointments and can't be fired.
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:52:50 PM PST
by
Howlin
("Victory is not a strategy. " ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
To: Petronski
It's in the WaPo transcript. What have I missed?
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:53:35 PM PST
by
Howlin
("Victory is not a strategy. " ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
To: Judith Anne
The democrats and MSM will turn on him at some point just like old Cindy.
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posted on
12/07/2005 12:55:04 PM PST
by
ncountylee
(Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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