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Military Recruiting Bans Seem Doomed
LA Times ^ | 12-07-05 | David G. Savage

Posted on 12/07/2005 8:38:36 AM PST by An Old Man

The Supreme Court justices signaled Tuesday that they would uphold the military's right to recruit on college campuses and at law schools, despite its policy of excluding openly gay people from its ranks.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; recruitment; rumsfeldvfair; scotus; solomonamendment
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Code Pink can take a......


41 posted on 12/07/2005 9:31:08 AM PST by bmwcyle (Evolution is a myth -- Libertarians just won't evolve into Conservatives.)
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To: An Old Man
I hope that collage ( whats that collage of the professor who was in the news about 8 months ago ? I think it was in Denver ) gets their funding cut if they don't like the military there.
42 posted on 12/07/2005 9:31:48 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: An Old Man
"recruit only at patriotic schools" Good choice! We have enough problems with some of the graduates of the unpatriotic school systems which are so prevalent today. Semper Fi

I would have to respectfully disagree with your suggestion that recruiters should only recruit at "patriotic" schools.

I. The position of a few administrators does not necesarraily reflect the views of the students. In fact, in many cases the students strongly disagree with the adminstration.

II. Your suggestion seems to be predicated on the assumption that the students at "unpatriotic" schools are of lesser caliber than those of "patriotic" schools. I would have to dispute that assumption based on several grounds.

A)Students--especially Law School-- chose schools based on their ranking. Because ranking for a large part determines what jobs are available to them. I doubt very much that students,before choosing a school,look at how "patriotic" a school is. Further, even if the students upon arriving realize how "unpatriotic" their school is, it is very difficult to switch schools(especially on that basis alone).

B)A student who decides accept a postion with the military is probably quite patriotic. If they had a problem with the military, then they wouldn't join. By not recruiting at these schools you miss a lot of students.

43 posted on 12/07/2005 9:32:45 AM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: No Blue States
"If you dont like it, you dont have to take the money"

And right now, there are thousands of lawyers reading that quote and going, "Huh?"

44 posted on 12/07/2005 9:35:28 AM PST by TheBigB ("Hey, barkeep, whose leg do you have to hump to get a dry martini around here?"--Brian Griffin)
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To: mbynack

I guess Kerry would have even forced commercial airlines hire totally blind people to be commercial airline pilots.


45 posted on 12/07/2005 9:36:05 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Also ? let them pay all the court cost if they lose.


46 posted on 12/07/2005 9:38:02 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: An Old Man

YAY!!! Finally, some common sense!


47 posted on 12/07/2005 9:39:16 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: rfreedom4u
Are they going to try to ban religions next? After all the churches have anti-gay policies too.

Churches, to the best of my knowledge, do not accept federal funding for their operating expenses. Woe to the first church that does.

This case illustrates why--in order to be free--we must keep the federal government out of as many of our institutions as possible.

48 posted on 12/07/2005 9:40:38 AM PST by Lou L
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To: bmwcyle
I agree....

CODE PINK ? GO POUND SAND !!!!
49 posted on 12/07/2005 9:42:19 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: BlessedBeGod

I feel like I woke up in the USA of America again.


50 posted on 12/07/2005 9:43:11 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: bobjam
Congress has attached many strings to its entitlements.

Absolutely. These law schools (which I find very difficult to believe are soooooo broke) can stand on principle and refuse the money if they feel strongly about the issue.

However, I predict that they will lose this case but will continue to receive federal funds. So much for principle.

There was a similar situation with my local school board a few years ago. Several members had been elected with the promise to end forced busing for racial equality. Some children had a daily 4-hour school bus commute to and from school.

The feds, of course, notified the school board that federal funds would be withheld if busing was stopped. The school board, bless their hearts, told the feds to keep the money. In fact, the cost savings from less fuel and wear & tear on the buses more than made up for the funds lost.

It will be interesting to see if these liberal law schools have as much backbone as my local school board. I think probably not.

51 posted on 12/07/2005 9:43:59 AM PST by carolinablonde (Proud member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy)
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To: An Old Man
I find it unbelievable that you have colleges in this country who do not believe in defending this country to the point of not allowing military recruiters on campus. Never mind federal funds, they should allow recruiters on campus as a good community citizen. Also, it's not just federal funds, these so called "non-profit" organizations pay very little in taxes but in the towns and cities where they reside they are major property holders. I think if you are charging $40K a year to "educate" a student, you should be paying your fair share in taxes, and I don't mean "in lieu of taxes" where they pay 3 cents on the dollar and provide the local community a couple of crappy scholarships every year. If these schools don't want military recruiters on campus, maybe they should move to another country, say Saudi Arabia or some European country. These schools fighting this are bad citizens. Period.
52 posted on 12/07/2005 9:46:02 AM PST by jackieaxe (English speaking, law abiding, taxpaying citizen)
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To: An Old Man

How will Buzzy vote?..will it be 9-0 or 8-1?


53 posted on 12/07/2005 9:46:13 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Yep! I've got a big grin on my face! :-)


54 posted on 12/07/2005 9:48:55 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: hsalaw
"Breyer, ... , said that what colleges need is MORE free speech ... "

Maybe, we are looking at the beginnings of an exposure of the loony left so that all people can know what they are about.

Semper Fi

55 posted on 12/07/2005 9:58:31 AM PST by An Old Man (USMC 1956 1960)
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To: ozoneliar
"I doubt very much that students,before choosing a school,look at how "patriotic" a school is ... "

That should be changed. If you want to perpetuate a swamp, do everything in your power to keep from having it drained. on the other hand, if it is your desire to convert a potential resource into an true asset, do what you can to get rid of what is causing the resource to be unproductive.

With all due respect, I find it difficult to believe that a preponderance of the students at an "unpatriotic" school can be patriotic.

Semper Fi

56 posted on 12/07/2005 10:10:07 AM PST by An Old Man (USMC 1956 1960)
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To: Lou L
Churches, to the best of my knowledge, do not accept federal funding for their operating expenses. Woe to the first church that does. This case illustrates why--in order to be free--we must keep the federal government out of as many of our institutions as possible.

Sadly, through the levying of taxes, or the exemption there from, institutions can be controlled almost as easily as by providing or witholding direct funding. Either way, you are adding or removing monies based upon what is deemed acceptible behavior by those who control the money.

Ask a liberal and they will tell you that being tax exempt is the same as accepting federal funds. That is how they are going after churches. By attempting to nulify their tax exempt status should they refuse to accept homosexuality or any other lifestyle. Not to mention the fact that they believe giving tax exempt status to a church violates the supposed "separation of church and state" portion of the constitution.

57 posted on 12/07/2005 10:27:30 AM PST by BradMorris64
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To: BradMorris64
Good point. I was thinking of that as I was posting.

Who was it that said, "The power to tax, is the power to destroy?" Chief Justice John Marshall?

58 posted on 12/07/2005 10:51:35 AM PST by Lou L
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To: Lou L

Yes. McCulloch v. Maryland, 1819


59 posted on 12/07/2005 10:54:53 AM PST by ivyleaguebrat
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To: Malesherbes

We can win BIG on this one. We can take the money away from the elite institutions AND not recruit their students into our military. Remember those students are not up to the standards of our armed forces. Even those who squeeze through the cracks some other way cannot survive basic training. Imagine them having to bathe regularly, exercise
logical thinking and deal with real life.


60 posted on 12/07/2005 11:24:01 AM PST by hdstmf (too)
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