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This country especially a state like PA used to split tickets more. In the last five years voters have tended to choose one side or another. 2000 was a totally different political landscape. I'll stick with what I said I can't imagine that their were that many people who voted for Kerry in Pa who would have voted for Toomey.

Bush ran ahead of the gop senate candidates. In Florida Bush ran ahead of Martinez. Bush was the incumbent and still lost in Pa by 3 percent. Toomey would have probably ran behind Bush in PA. Also remember that Santorum was the incumbent in 2000 which helped him in that political enviornment.

PA has become a very socially rino state. The philly suburbs have trended far left. Throw in the two big cities and PA is a tough state for a conservative republican. Only reason Bush was even close in PA was because of the security moms. Toomey wouldn't have had that going for him. I was for Toomey just to get Specter out of the Judiciary Chairmanship even though I knew Toomey couldn't win in a state like PA.

I was for Toomey just to get Specter out of the Judiciary Chairmanship even though I knew Toomey couldn't win in a state like PA.

I was big-time for Toomey as well. I was disappointed when Bush and Santorum saved Specter's skin. However, I knew that Arlen was calling in favors, so in a political sense, I knew that Santorum and Bush were just doing what needed to be done to reflect party loyalty and field the strongest candidate ahead of a big election.

That said, there is simply no reason for a conservative to be against Rick Santorum. Those on this thread who are against him have admitted on previous threads that they are libertarians, not conservatives. That should tell you something.

There is a considerable body of people who believe that had Santorum and Bush supported Toomey on principle rather than Specter -- for whatever God awful reasons -- that Bush would have won in PA. Lots of Toomey supporters sat that race out.

I'll say it so that you (or anyone else) don't have to . . . We took our bat and ball and went home. Toomey brought people out of the woodwork to vote for him, not from the graveyard, but from their own self imposed exile of not voting because there hasn't been anyone worth voting for. Toomey was the exception, but when Party became more important than principle to Bush and Santorum, these people again chose to withhold their votes.